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Watters' World 4/4/20 FULL SHOW [Is the NYC Hydroxychloroquine trial a fake? FDA Commissioner Hahn says results will take "months"]
Watters World via YouTube ^ | 4/4/2020 | Jesse Watters

Posted on 04/04/2020 10:35:19 PM PDT by catnipman

Watters' World 4/4/20 FULL SHOW | Trump Breaking News April 4, 2020

[relevant part with Hahn starts at 11:46]

(Excerpt) Read more at youtube.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: covid; drug; fda; fud; hahn; hydroxychloroquine; newyork; swag; trial
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To: catnipman
Our country is run by unselected bureaucrats answering to no one. They are worse than politicians when someone tries to peel back the layers of corruption.

They ban together to squash the opponent.

Yes, the deep state is alive and killing America

21 posted on 04/05/2020 3:12:07 AM PDT by eartick (Stupidity is expecting the government that broke itself to go out and fix itself. Texan for TEXIT!)
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To: catnipman

These public health hacks don’t want a cure. They really don’t want prophylaxis They want power and money

This part of the swamp must be drained too


22 posted on 04/05/2020 3:31:53 AM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: catnipman

But he also went to the microphones yesterday and said it’s available for compassionate use. They’re not waiting for trial results.


23 posted on 04/05/2020 3:52:22 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog (Patrick Henry would have been an anti-vaxxer)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Yes

Compassionate use is a Hail Mary use.

Last resort.

When it wont work.


24 posted on 04/05/2020 4:00:28 AM PDT by Chickensoup (Voter ID for 2020!! Leftists totalitarian fascists appear to be planning to eradicate conservatives)
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To: catnipman
Although we all have good reason to be skeptical of comments made by politicians, IMHO there was nothing said by Hahn that was misleading or concerning.

What he said is that hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine can be prescribed by your physician NOW, without you having to be in a clinical trial, and without you having to wait until the clinical trials are completed.

That said, without well-controlled clinical trials, we have only anecdotal evidence of efficacy. Personally, given the potential for this virus to kill, and considering that there is a good scientific/mechanistic reason why chloroquine may be effective, I would definitely prescribe it for Covid patients. However, we still need to concomitantly do controlled trials to prove that it is effective.

I've done a fair number of clinical trials on novel agents, and it is very common for the Phase I/II trials (generally not designed or controlled to assess efficacy - but rather to define safety) to show some dramatic results. However, many (most) of these results do not hold up when tested in controlled efficacy trials. Thus, controlled trials are necessary.

That said, I assure you that there is NO WAY to coerce the medical community to participate in a financially-driven effort to suppress an effective drug. The vast majority of physicians want their patients to do well, and most of us would prescribe a medication ‘off-label’ if we thought it would save a patient.

In general, there has been lots of shoot from the hip commentary from the media, politicians, AND from some in the medical community with regards Covid. NO ONE is an expert on Covid at this point. NO ONE. Even knowing the sequence and encoded proteins doesn't make one an expert on the biology of the virus. We don't even know exactly how it is transmitted, and what has been purported about this has evolved over time (i.e. China initially said it couldn't be transferred from person to person).

Regarding the Oracle platform, I think this is exactly what needs to happen, so that there is a central repository of data that we ALL can access and assess. That said, piecemeal data, even if there is a lot of it, does not give you the same information that a well-designed clinical trial does.

I look at this sort of like what was going on at NASA during Apollo 13. They were facing a new problem, didn't have all the information they needed, and they had not anticipated all that they faced. They got through it with great success because they maintained cool heads and ‘worked the problem’.

That's what we need to do with Covid. At this point, we don't truly even know how Covid emerged (e.g. mutation in bats etc., result of genetic engineering?).

25 posted on 04/05/2020 4:10:11 AM PDT by neverevergiveup
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To: catnipman

A doc on Jessie Waters last night, FDA commissioner Dr. Stephen Hahn, said it would take months for Hydrochlorozine to be finished with trials.

Meanwhile, this from the Post:

“An experimental HIV drug that has been used to successfully treat COVID-19 patients is in its second phase of testing with the Food and Drug Administration and could potentially be approved for use in four weeks, its manufacturer says.”

It’s all about Big Pharma. All about Big Pharma.

https://nypost.com/2020/04/04/hiv-drug-that-treats-coronavirus-moving-to-phase-2-trials/?utm_source=knewz


26 posted on 04/05/2020 4:23:32 AM PDT by true believer forever (Fight the Attacks against Trump: PLANT YOUR FEET, LEAN INTO IT, BEAT IT BACK.)
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To: catnipman

the antiTrump US government will murder anyone with
a cure for this disease. anyone.


27 posted on 04/05/2020 4:34:03 AM PDT by Diogenesis ( WWG1WGA)
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To: FlipWilson

Fauci will never say the drug is ok, because that would violate the whole purpose of FDC testing.

But in war, you count on results, not what the lab technicians say is proper.


28 posted on 04/05/2020 4:42:54 AM PDT by poconopundit (Joe Biden has long been the Senate's court jester. He's 24/7 malarkey and more corrupt than Hunter.)
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To: catnipman

There was a story on this forum yesterday where a person attempted to volunteer to be a subject of the Pittsburgh hydroxychloroquine trial. It took several tries, but he finally found someone involved with the “study”. He was told “it is far too early to be involving volunteers”. He finally was able to give his contact information but felt that it was not even been recorded.


29 posted on 04/05/2020 5:06:39 AM PDT by norwaypinesavage (Calm down and enjoy the ride, great things are happening for our country)
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To: Buttons12

“Whose property is my body? Probably mine. I so regard it. If I experiment with it, who must be answerable? I, not the State. If I choose injudiciously, does the State die? Oh, no.” —Mark Twain


30 posted on 04/05/2020 5:12:24 AM PDT by Max in Utah (A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within.)
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To: catnipman

I have been trying to think about what we have LEARNED from all this. If the next few days do not show a BIG difference in numbers, then here’s what we have LEARNED:

DO NOT TRUST THE SCIENTISTS. NEVER LET THIS SHUTDOWN OF AN ENTIRE COUNTRY HAPPEN AGAIN. IT DID NOT WORK, FAUCI.
STOP WITH THE “MITIGATING” BECAUSE IT DID NOTHING BUT CAUSE THE COLLAPSE OF A WONDERFUL SYSTEM.


31 posted on 04/05/2020 5:19:38 AM PDT by Maris Crane
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To: Maris Crane

What have you learned?

the deep state invests in vaccines
they will force on the public [albeit useless
for mutating viruses THEY released]
while THEY remove and hoard for THEMSELVES
all cheap, simple, cures;
as they meticulously use the MSM
to COVERUP THEIR ROLE in financing and
enabling the making of this HIV-laden SARS CoV-2.


32 posted on 04/05/2020 5:21:19 AM PDT by Diogenesis ( WWG1WGA)
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To: Diogenesis

All of that does NOT account for the fact that they MANAGED TO CLOSE DOWN THIS MAGNIFICENT COUNTRY...CLOSE IT DOWN...THAT IS UNFORGIVABLE!!!!!


33 posted on 04/05/2020 5:41:48 AM PDT by Maris Crane
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

That’s not going to fly with The Donald.


34 posted on 04/05/2020 5:42:30 AM PDT by gogeo (The left prides themselves on being tolerant, but they can't even be civil.)
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To: Chickensoup

“Compassionate use is a Hail Mary use.

Last resort.

When it wont work.”

Exactly


35 posted on 04/05/2020 5:42:50 AM PDT by SecAmndmt (Arm yourselves!)
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To: catnipman
CDC: "OMG, there's a grease fire in the kitchen."

People in kitchen: "We can use this fire extinguisher from the car."

CDC: "No, that is only approved for car use. It will take months of study to determine whether it's safe to use inside a kitchen."

People in kitchen: "But we're wiling to take that risk, just let us put out the fire now. A lot of people have saved their homes with these."

CDC: "NO!, that's anecdotal. We'll know more next year."

36 posted on 04/05/2020 5:55:01 AM PDT by Sirius Lee (They are openly stating that they intend to murder us. Prep if you want to live.)
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To: Buttons12

Our friend is a retired nurse. Her former boss was on a ventilator in a hospital in MA.

His family asked that he be treated with the Paequil/Zpac combination. Once treated, he was off the ventilator and sent home.


37 posted on 04/05/2020 6:06:40 AM PDT by CTyank
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To: Maris Crane

+1


38 posted on 04/05/2020 6:37:11 AM PDT by enumerated
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To: lewislynn
Knock off this kind of lying bullshit! It does nobody any good. PERIOD!

Are you talking to me?

39 posted on 04/05/2020 7:16:26 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (We need to reach across the aisle, extend a hand...And slap the crap out of them)
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To: CTyank; catnipman

“Our friend is a retired nurse. Her former boss was on a ventilator in a hospital in MA.

His family asked that he be treated with the Paequil/Zpac combination. Once treated, he was off the ventilator and sent home.”
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Good, but...

Better to DEMAND that your doc give it to you well before you end up on a ventilator. First, more chance of surviving and second, less chance of permanent damage to your lungs and other organs. If he won’t do it, fire his ass and get another. Also, take vitamin C orally - LOTS of it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bV53h7MCu9I&feature=youtu.be

This is a long video, but the meat is in the first half.

Bottom line: be your own advocate, too many out there willing to play with your life to advance their own agenda.


40 posted on 04/05/2020 10:57:41 AM PDT by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt, The Weapons Shops of Isher)
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