Posted on 04/09/2020 8:24:37 PM PDT by FreedomPoster
Hit the source link to open a *.pdf of a flow chart procedure for treating COVID-19 inpatients. Look on the left hand side.
The *.pdf document is from this web page at Yale: https://covid.yale.edu/clinical/protocol/
Tech stupid am I
We are using it. The results are less than impressive. It is not a magic bullet and we need to keep looking.
We are adding the antibiotic and the results are still not that impressive. Right now it’s all we have but it is not the ultimate answer
> “I wonder if the scattered reports we get about HCQ not being effective are because they are not adding the antibiotic?”
You raise the crucial issue.
If Yale sees mixed results as a result of not including Zinc, then the Vaccine Lobby may get a temporary win.
Dr. Didier Raoult in France had tremendous success without Zinc because the French diet is rich in Zinc.
The American diet is Zinc-poor.
Dr. ‘Zev’ Zelenko has had results so positive using HCQ + Zinc that it can be called a cure, curing many, many hundreds of positive cases, full range of ages, both genders, all ranges of severity, and now people calling him from all over.he and his clinic are overwhelmed.
Yale is full of rich entitled ruling class kids. Their faculty should be quite competent and look at Zinc combination + Z-Pak/Doxyclycin.
Let’s hope the Med faculty get it right. I am inclined to think they will because the setting and natural impulse to cure will steer them.
Dr. Raoult included Z-Pak (Azithromycin) to guard against infection and because it has mild anti-viral effects as well as antibiotic.
But in Marseille, the diet is Zinc-rich so his outcomes were good.
Dr. Zev included Z-Pak because Dr. Raoult did but doesn’t think it is necessary. He includes it to ensure his regimen leaves no gap just in case because of Dr. Raoult’s success outcome. Zev didn’t know the French diet was so rich in Zinc. It was Zev’s puzzle solving ability that led him to include Zinc consciously. He has a very brilliant mind.
So Zinc is key. It’s what makes the virus stop growing. The HCQ helps push the Zinc into the cell (increase the uptake). The two working together make a cure as nearly all recover.
However, in severe cases of Covid-19, the lungs are going to be damaged. So although Zev’s regimen can stop such patients from dying, they are not going to be 100% back in shape right away and will need a lot of therapy and healing. But at least they will be alive.
Because severe cases can cause lungs to be damaged, Zev urges people get treatment early, early, early and aggressively.
The test kits and other tests now coming are important. Everyone needs to be tested and not just once but periodically until it’s over whenever that is.
But anyone with a positive test result needs to get to a doctor’s office ASAP and tell the doctor they need HCQ + Zinc treatment ASAP. If the doctor says sorry I’m not allowed, tell the doc you have a witness to his/her refusal and the next meeting is going to be with an attorney. If the doctor persists in refusing because blah blah blah, “the State doesn’t allow me unless you need to be hospitalized” yada yada yada, you tell the doctor “see you in court” and then proceed to repeat the demands to the State public health bureaucracy.
A word of advice, when demanding an urgent response from a government bureaucrat, they will often appear sympathetic, passionate, blather all sorts of things that they and others in government aer doing to ‘address’ the situation etc. They will literally appear to be jumping up and down to ‘help’. But they won’t release the pills. They’re useless.
Tell them “Enough of the bullsh*t, I want the pills now! I want my doctor to prescribe the pills because this is my life that’s on the line and I’ll be damned if you’re going to get in the way of my life being saved!”
That said, the pill regimen should be under the care of a doc. These are not OTC meds, they can have side effects if not properly dosed or taken. A doctor needs to be involved, but the bureaucracy can take a hike.
I’ll take any results at all until we get all the tools we need.
Are you doing the HCQ + zinc + Z-Pak, all 3?
Awesome Video.
He makes the point that the Z_Pack should be started quickly. Too bad that a few democrat governors have made that impossible.
This virus appears to be a dual killer. It attacks the hemoglobin, reducing delivered O2 and it replicates in depp lung cells destroying cells in the lungs resulting in what appears to present as ARDS.
The HCQ works in more ways than one to mitigate these effects. It has been shown to change the interstitial pH, stressing the virus where it seeks to spread in the blood; it reduces inflammation throughout the body and especially the airways; it acts as a zinc ionophore to transport zinc inside the infected cells where the zinc blocks virus replication; it may also degrade the protein casing of the viral packet.
Add some cocacola, a couple of white liquors and you’ve got LongIslamd Iced Tea, if memory serves.
I LOVE those drinks. Not sure what’s in them but they’re STRONG.
Used to like Alabama slammers as a yoot too :)
like I said ed are using it but it is not the ultimate answer
Excellent mechanism detail.
The bureaucracy is in the way.
It’s up to the Docs to pull rank over bureaucrats. Docs really are the bosses in situations such as this but they’ve been wimpified for various reasons to pass the buck to bureaucrats.
If this was a relatively untested regimen of new meds, then yes, Docs could have liability. But these meds are older than most of the Docs are. The meds are very well-known. So there’s virtually no harm in using them.
Malpractice attorneys would only have a case against Docs prescribing HCQ + Zinc + Z-Pak if more effective alternatives existed. There are no such alternatives.
Docs are therefore free to pull rank.
And that’s what we all need to see our Docs do, take the bull by the horns and get it done. Screw the Fauci’s of the world.
Thank you for this
POTUS mentioned Zinc. Without it there are likely going to be mixed results.
HCQ by itself will not do it unless the diet is rich in Zinc. American diets are not rich in Zinc. HCQ pushes the Zinc into the cell and the Zinc stops the virus from growing.
See MHGinTN’s up-to-date mechanism of action description in #27.
Wow. Good find
The antibiotic is for secondary pneumonia
[We are using it. The results are less than impressive. It is not a magic bullet and we need to keep looking.]
like I said ed are using it but it is not the ultimate answer
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Including Zinc Sulfate in the regimen.
By the way, I agree with you about the desirability of the widespread and varied clinical trials currently ongoing or kicking off.
No it isn’t.
French red wines are good source for zinc ...
Also
That French doctor did a study on over 1,000 patients: if you get them started on the HCQ / Z-pac / Zinc early, you get a 91% or so cure rate.
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