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US- 1 mil cases, 50 k deaths. My model (vanity)
aloysius88

Posted on 04/14/2020 3:23:32 AM PDT by Aloysius88

"Look. I'm just going to put this out there. I've been modeling coronavirus from Worldometer's numbers. Right now I have less than 1.6 mil cases and less than 90k deaths on May 1."

That was my model on April 7. Today's model has the US at 1 mil cases and 50k deaths based on Worldometer's numbers at May 1. US peak new cases was April 4th and new deaths peak was April 10th. Michigan new cases peaked April 3rd.It is time to go back to work before we totally wreck the machine that feeds us. Nobody's model predicted these numbers and if they had we would not have freaked out like we did. C'mon man.

I am not going to debate social distancing. Some nations and states did it well and some nations and states did it less enthusiastically and the inexorable progression of the numbers remains. The numbers go up and they flatten. Italy, Germany and Spain follow the same curve. The total deaths is ridiculously low when you look at average weekly deaths for any year you want to name.

Of course fewer people die when you wrap the nation in bubble wrap. I went to work every day for 40 years and every day was a crap shoot on the expressway and in the shop. People die every day. About 60K every week in your average January. February and March. Some of those who escaped death today die tomorrow. Get over it. Trust Jesus and go about your lives.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: chat; coronavanity; covid19; model; stupidvanity; vanity
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1 posted on 04/14/2020 3:23:32 AM PDT by Aloysius88
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To: Aloysius88

Brilliant. Concise. Fact based. None of the Karens will listen to you.


2 posted on 04/14/2020 3:29:55 AM PDT by steve8714
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To: Aloysius88

Unlike the initial models that were used to scare Trump into the shutdown yours looks quite plausible.


3 posted on 04/14/2020 3:31:34 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog (Patrick Henry would have been an anti-vaxxer)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

I also think there’s a strong possibility that this is a bio weapon. Leaders know it but are hesitant to share for fear of totally freaking out citizens. It’s the only explanation for the entire world shutting down.


4 posted on 04/14/2020 3:43:24 AM PDT by Josa
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I don’t buy that. It would be a really lousy bioweapon. It looks like the actual mortality rate (based on an estimate of all cases, not just confirmed cases) will come out at under 1%. A good bioweapon also gets people sick. 80% of Coronavirus infections produce no symptoms or mild symptoms.

What I do buy is that it got released from the virus lab in Wuhan, probably accidentally, and did not arise from a bat to human transfer.


5 posted on 04/14/2020 3:50:38 AM PDT by stremba
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To: Aloysius88; Travis McGee
Look. I'm just going to put this out there. I've been modeling coronavirus from Worldometer's numbers. Right now I have less than 1.6 mil cases and less than 90k deaths on May 1.

What ever software application you are using is every bit as reliable at predicting the future as the ones that are being touted by today's experts, which is to say, it is another SWAG.

Yo, Travis, where are your hockey stick graphs that predict 2.2 million future deaths.

Please, don't pretend that you were not a future's doom and gloomer, like you have been trying to do with some posts.

In another 6 days it will be two weeks, and you will really go 'dark' on FR.

Are you 'scrubbing' past posts? You sure have gone quiet, almost silent.

6 posted on 04/14/2020 3:54:37 AM PDT by USS Alaska (NUKE THE MOOSELIMB, TERRORISTS, NOW!)
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To: Aloysius88

I can get a rough estimate using the FWHM (full width at half-maximum) on the bar graphs. Your numbers are plausible.


7 posted on 04/14/2020 3:55:28 AM PDT by rfp1234 (Caveat Emperor)
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To: stremba

‘It would be a really lousy bioweapon.’

good point...


8 posted on 04/14/2020 3:57:22 AM PDT by IrishBrigade
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To: stremba

Stories that Chinese factories are shutting down again because worldwide depression means no one is buying their stuff.

If it is a bioweapon they just shot themselves in the foot with it.


9 posted on 04/14/2020 4:00:21 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog (Patrick Henry would have been an anti-vaxxer)
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To: stremba
It would be a really lousy bioweapon.

Or, conversely, a very clever bio-weapon that is designed to wound, not kill, cause economic damage without overt mass casualties, not destroy a people, but render them less capable of offering resistance to Chinese global aims.

That being said, we know that Chinese scientists tinkered with corona viruses in the Wuhan lab. They added genes to produce viruses not found in nature. The current pandemic may very well be caused by such a manufactured virus.

The only question in my mind is whether the virus was released by accident or deliberately.

10 posted on 04/14/2020 4:04:11 AM PDT by Blennos
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To: rfp1234; Aloysius88

Pretty much everything is still open in my country, Public Services, Banks, food stores, drug stores, gas stations, home improvement stores, most sit down restaurants are doing take out, of course all Fast Food joints are doing take out.

People are working in all those places - and many people are visiting them.

About the only places that are closed are schools and manufacturing.

Social distancing is hit or miss around here - but people are polite and everybody is making due.

Scored a 9 roll pack of TP yesterday.


11 posted on 04/14/2020 4:06:12 AM PDT by PeteB570 ( Islam is the sea in which the Terrorist Shark swims. The deeper the sea the larger the shark.)
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In the wussified woke America, this is the new norm.

Stump your toe, go to the ER.

Sneeze, quarantine the city you live in.

Vaccinate everyone with RFID device and tell them itis for the good of the sheople.

I choose not to conform to the new norms. I will continue to shake a persons hand.

12 posted on 04/14/2020 4:17:54 AM PDT by eartick (Stupidity is expecting the government that broke itself to go out and fix itself. Texan for TEXIT!)
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There is a lot we don’t know long term...such as the reinfection rate, immunity and whether the virus could leave people open to an entire host of deadly issues. You can’t base a model on the reported death rate to date. I am personally not going back to work without a mask and hopefully better testing.


13 posted on 04/14/2020 4:18:09 AM PDT by erlayman (yw)
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None of those things could be modeled in the early hockey stick graphs either.


14 posted on 04/14/2020 4:19:41 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog (Patrick Henry would have been an anti-vaxxer)
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To: Josa
National Review has an excellent article about the origins of the virus, based on information from various China sources. (Somebody speaks the language and listens.) That lab in Wuhan is a China CDC, which COLLECTS viruses that may be deadly. They are actually paying researchers to go into caves all over China LOOKING for deadly viruses to “study.” The article quotes a guy who loves the danger of it and he says that the urine and blood, either of which easily splatter on them, are highly contagious for deadly viruses of every imaginable type including rabies, ebola and coronaviruses. Anybody with a lick of sense would realize this inevitably results in a pandemic or many pandemics, but they do it anyway. And Bill Gates helps finance it.
So now this lab has a limitless supply of deadly stuff that they don't need to do anything but let it accidentally (or not) escape from the lab. Sorry can't find a link rn.
15 posted on 04/14/2020 4:19:53 AM PDT by Missouri gal
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To: eartick

We really should not deconstruct our entire culture over a 100-year event.


16 posted on 04/14/2020 4:21:04 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog (Patrick Henry would have been an anti-vaxxer)
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To: Aloysius88


17 posted on 04/14/2020 4:38:07 AM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: stremba

” It would be a really lousy bioweapon.”

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Not if the intent was to bring the world to its financial knees.

Not if it was a test that still had plausible deniability.

The authors of this virus can now throw the world into a panic every flu season at their whim.

Seems like a very effective bioweapon to me.


18 posted on 04/14/2020 4:38:30 AM PDT by Eccl 10:2 (Prov 3:5 --- "Trust in the Lord with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding" don't)
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To: Aloysius88

The standalone CV stats are worthless because the CDC by their own design has artificially inflated the deaths statistics to count all related deaths as CV, as long as CV was present.


19 posted on 04/14/2020 4:42:24 AM PDT by Eccl 10:2 (Prov 3:5 --- "Trust in the Lord with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding" don't)
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To: IrishBrigade; stremba
If it is a bioweapon they just shot themselves in the foot with it.

It’s been an excellent proof of concept. Tweak the parameters and let one go, say, in early October, and you can control the election.

What’s a few hundred thousand dead Chinese if they can control the world?

20 posted on 04/14/2020 4:46:26 AM PDT by IncPen ("Inside of every progressive is a Totalitarian screaming to get out" ~ David Horowitz)
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