[Dr. Sivana]

Much of the move to Red China happened after WTO and MFN status, both of which would be after the '80s. I imagine Texas Instruments once made a lot more stuff in Texas than it does now. The chips I remember said "El Salvador" on them.

I was thinking about manufacturing. Obviously, there are a lot of IT jobs in all the big states, but not nearly as much manufacturing as there used to be.

[Spktyr]

Yes, but the Carrollton production gear went in part to *Ireland*. China wasn’t the first outsourcing country for US companies. I was also pointing out that local asshats can also drive off industry, so we shouldn’t just be blaming ‘greedy executives’ or ‘foreign blandishments.’ Some of the blame must be placed on the people who run off industry.

I won’t disagree about there being less tech manufacture in the States than there used to be. I was simply pointing out that Apple’s Austin, TX investment wasn’t just a tiny marginal one to make the Mac Pro, nor was it really just recent.