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Britain may offer 'path to citizenship' for nearly 3 million in Hong Kong
Reuters ^ | May 29, 2020 / 3:04 PM | Reporting by William James, editing by Andy Bruce

Posted on 05/30/2020 6:28:46 PM PDT by Zhang Fei

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To: Zhang Fei

There should be a scrum of all the developed nations, trying to recruit the financial elite from Hong Kong.

Let whole businesses relocate, with their employees and their families.


41 posted on 05/30/2020 7:36:24 PM PDT by BeauBo
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To: Paladin2; datura; max americana

In addition, there are about 300,000 Canadian (dual) citizens residing in Hong Kong. Those ‘just-in-case’ citizenship papers might be useful soon.


42 posted on 05/30/2020 7:39:13 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: mass55th

Indirectly I benefited from British rule for 150 years in India. All my college education in India was in English. Made it easier for me to do well in American university for advanced degree in engineering, and then did even better in American corporations, again because of fluency in English.

Without fluency in English, I would have ended up in a German University which I am glad did not happen.


43 posted on 05/30/2020 7:39:19 PM PDT by entropy12 (covid-19 separates the fearful from the freedom loving! If I am not afraid, no one should be.)
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To: who_would_fardels_bear

True. Mainstream Tories are pro EU, anti-Brexit. It is Nigel Farage who has been trying his best to defend the referendum outcome.


44 posted on 05/30/2020 7:40:33 PM PDT by granada
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To: mass55th

[I am sick of how Britain occupied all these nations, and then in some cases, cut and run because they didn’t want to deal with the problems. They created these problems, and then ran away.]


Hong Kong was a fishing village comprising malarial swamp leavened by rocky wasteland before the Brits showed up. Enlightened British administration coupled with enterprising and diligent locals built the Hong Kong of today. I’d say if there are problems in Hong Kong, the Crown had very little to do with their creation, having governed with a fairly light touch throughout its tenure.


45 posted on 05/30/2020 7:41:16 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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To: BobL

Average IQ for various countries:

Hong Kong 108
South Korea 106
Japan 105
China 105
UK 100
Mexico 88
Syria 83
India 82
Somalia 68

https://worldpopulationreview.com/countries/average-iq-by-country/


46 posted on 05/30/2020 7:43:03 PM PDT by In_Iowa_not_from
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To: Empire_of_Liberty

You’d be hard-pressed to get a better class of immigrants than the entrepreneurial class from Hong Kong.


47 posted on 05/30/2020 7:43:32 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: Nateman

Do we need them? Is it better for US? No.


48 posted on 05/30/2020 7:43:44 PM PDT by Jack Black
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To: Zhang Fei

So light a touch that they turned it over to the Chi-Coms.


49 posted on 05/30/2020 7:46:02 PM PDT by mass55th ("Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway." ~~ John Wayne)
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To: Empire_of_Liberty

Shouldn’t The USA get in on this?
“I think we’ll have our hands full with Taiwan.”

At the moment we have our hands full with Minneapolis, Chicago, NYC, LA, Philly, et al.


50 posted on 05/30/2020 7:46:15 PM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: Nateman

At first, I had those same thoughts — let them come here. But in the end, they’re Chinese in their hearts. They’ll be speaking Chinese. They’ll have Chinese flags on their lawns. Chinese are the most racist people in the world. No ... I don’t think so. It’s bad enough that we’re being pushed around by the minorities here, and we don’t need one more mega minority to bully us.


51 posted on 05/30/2020 7:50:16 PM PDT by MayflowerMadam (Nothing happens to a Christian that God does not allow to happen.)
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To: entropy12

But even Britons are reluctant to take the credit. You know, the mighty political correctness in the western world. Only PRC Chinese have got the right to give evil opium wars a silver lining.


52 posted on 05/30/2020 7:54:26 PM PDT by granada
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To: mass55th

[So light a touch that they turned it over to the Chi-Coms.]


Taiwan can be defended. Hong Kong is not defensible. Imperial Japan overran Hong Kong in under 3 weeks.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Hong_Kong

The land is basically worthless. The value is in the people. The problem in 1997 was that the people of Hong Kong were on the fence re Britain and China. Apart from the usual ethno-racial frictions*, it would be risky to take in large numbers of people whose fealty to the Crown was in question. Now that the people of Hong Kong have had a taste of the Chinese Communist Party’s rule, and have turned solidly away, with a 90% majority voting against quislings hand-picked by Beijing, their disdain, verging on hatred, for China has now crystalized. At least from an ideological/national loyalty standpoint, there may be less of an issue than there used to be.

The problem now is that the Tory voter base may not be particularly happy about a huge influx of these foreigners competing for jobs. They weren’t happy about Eastern Europeans (esp. Poles) taking their jobs. Why would they be happy about Hongkongers doing so?

* It’s no accident that very few countries take in large influxes of physically and culturally-distinct peoples from other countries. How many countries in the Far East took in significant contingents of culturally- and physically-similar Vietnamese refugees during the Boat People crisis in the 1970’s that followed the fall of the South Vietnam?


53 posted on 05/30/2020 7:57:18 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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To: entropy12

I’m glad you had the opportunity to get the education you deserved. When Britain partitioned India into India and Pakistan before they left, it created a nightmare.
And sadly, for all the nations England once had in its Empire, as well as the fact that they brag about how diverse they are, and how they ended slavery well before this country, they’ve never once elected a person of color as Prime Minister. And if they ever do elect a person of color, hopefully it won’t be a Muslim.


54 posted on 05/30/2020 7:57:47 PM PDT by mass55th ("Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway." ~~ John Wayne)
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To: Zhang Fei
"Why would they be happy about Hongkongers doing so?"

Britain likes to brag that it's such a diverse nation. They let thousands of muzzies infiltrate to take jobs and elected positions. Why balk at Hongkongers? At least you know they're not going to attack you with a machete, or run you over in a truck.

55 posted on 05/30/2020 8:03:53 PM PDT by mass55th ("Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway." ~~ John Wayne)
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To: max americana

We should assert that we have a prior claim to Taiwan as a territory by right of conquest. Hell, a Chinese Emperor renounced any right to Formosa in the 1800s! We held it for a brief period and have more right to it than the running dog CCP imperialists!

From:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taiwan_under_Japanese_rule

Taiwan became a dependency of Japan in 1895 when the Qing dynasty of China ceded Taiwan Province in the Treaty of Shimonoseki after Japanese victory in the First Sino-Japanese War. The short-lived Republic of Formosa resistance movement was suppressed by Japanese troops and quickly defeated in the Capitulation of Tainan, ending organized resistance to Japanese occupation and inaugurated five decades of Japanese rule. Taiwan was Japan’s first overseas colony and can be viewed as the first steps in implementing their “Southern Expansion Doctrine” of the late 19th century. Japanese intentions were to turn Taiwan into a showpiece “model colony” with much effort made to improve the island’s economy, public works, industry, cultural Japanization, and to support the necessities of Japanese military aggression in the Asia-Pacific.[1]

Japanese rule of Taiwan ended after the surrender of Japan concluded World War II in August 1945, and the territory was placed under the control of the Republic of China (ROC) with the issuing of General Order No. 1.[2] Japan formally renounced rights to Taiwan in the Treaty of San Francisco in April 1952. The experience of Japanese rule, ROC rule and the February 28 massacre of 1947 continues to affect issues such as Taiwan Retrocession Day, national identity, ethnic identity, and the formal Taiwan independence movement.
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56 posted on 05/30/2020 8:06:44 PM PDT by Pete from Shawnee Mission
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To: Zhang Fei

Big mistake. Britain, like the USA, is overrun with immigrants and cannot take in the whole world.


57 posted on 05/30/2020 8:07:46 PM PDT by dougherty (I saw the angel in the marble and carved until I set him free. - Michelangelo)
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To: granada

[But even Britons are reluctant to take the credit. You know, the mighty political correctness in the western world. Only PRC Chinese have got the right to give evil opium wars a silver lining.]


There’s nothing “evil” about the Anglo-Chinese Wars. Opium was a legal commodity around the world at the time the wars were fought. In the West, the prohibition of opium and other narcotics occurred only in the 20th century.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prohibition_of_drugs#Prohibition

Opium has been used in China since the 7th century, when envoys from the Middle East introduced it to Tang dynasty China. Its introduction put an end to the prior (poisonous) intoxicant/hallucinogenic compound in wide use among the Chinese - Cold Food Powder.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cold-Food_Powder

The issue with opium imports was that product of the Indian cultivars was superior to the Chinese variant, creating balance of payments problems for China. Meanwhile, opium was in wide use in the West, as the far more potent tincture of opium aka laudanum:

http://www.victorianweb.org/victorian/science/addiction/addiction2.html
https://www.historic-uk.com/HistoryUK/HistoryofBritain/Opium-in-Victorian-Britain/


58 posted on 05/30/2020 8:09:15 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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To: Paladin2

good for them...smart move....wish we would offer more to Hong Kong....educated, hard working.....


59 posted on 05/30/2020 8:10:25 PM PDT by cherry
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To: stuckincali

if we would invite mostly non muzzies we would be better off entirely.....diminish the impact of the muzzies.....sure asians here in the USA vote rat but at least they’re good workers, educated....


60 posted on 05/30/2020 8:12:15 PM PDT by cherry
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