[silverleaf]

It’s about time

[piasa]

Sounds like he wants to investigate himself

[piasa]

Sounds like he wants to investigate himself

[Cobra64]

Did anyone actually read that?

[DAC21]

“One thing that we might be able to do is get what we’ve done audited. That will be external, third party, independent of who we are, and can help validate all of this.”

Talks cheap.

[DAC21]

“One thing that we might be able to do is get what we’ve done audited. That will be external, third party, independent of who we are, and can help validate all of this.”

Talks cheap.

[PlateOfShrimp]

I have been following this - it is amazing and all Freepers should pay attention. This is like CNN in an elevator - it is wrong on so many levels. I highly recommend checking out James Todaro’s feed

https://twitter.com/JamesTodaroMD?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor

We have a very dodgy company, unknown actors supporting them, a press that made no effort to investigate, a journal that published shoddy work, and a NGO that took this at face value.

All the institutions are broken. This is why we had the revolution of 2016. The Trump phenomena, IMHO, can be explained in 3 words:

The “experts” aren’t.

Thanks again S&F for keeping up on this.

[yoe]

"... concerns about that dataset have swirled on social media,..."

There are millions of Hydroxychloroquine success stories that aren't swirled on social media... you can't read those, they give other views....

[ProtectOurFreedom]

He’s a PT Barnum / Obama style crook. Plain and simple.

Another article yesterday pointed out the suspiciously low variance in the data for the 96,000 people.

[ifinnegan]

Still say “It’s over. We have lost this battle. We need to move on.”?

https://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3848972/posts?page=16#16

[Bob434]

no no no- can’t be- NY’s ‘study’ claims there is ‘no benefit’ and ‘dangerous’ for HCQ too- so it must be true- (Don’t listen to the reams and reams of evidence coming in from all over the world that HCQ is saving 10’s of 1000’s of lives- we must only listen to the anti-Trump TDS NY and Lancet ‘studies’ (which were nothing but observations really- not even real studies) - we must only listen to ‘studies’ that ‘studied’ the effect of HCQ alone on patients who were too sick for anything to work- we must listen only to those who claim it ‘could be dangerous in given circumstances’, and we must cower in fear over a drug that is far safer than aspirin is-

[chuckee]

Dr Tedros, the dirty head of WHO, hired this dirty “expert” to get back at Trump after Trump cut off WHO from American funds and criticized Tedros. Kind of like hiring an “expert” to submit expert testimony on your side during litigation. You pay them to testify to a foregone conclusion for your side not for impartial research. Usually the “experts” on either side of the case cancel each other out.

[ProtectOurFreedom]

CrunchBase says that QuartzClinical is a sub-organization of SurgiSphere. They have an interesting organization -- six people in sales, marketing, creative, and legal fluff. And their VP of "System Integration and Optimization" is a lawyer, to boot.

QuartzClinical operates in Analytics, Big Data, Business Intelligence, Data Integration, Health Care, Information Technology, Machine Learning, Medical, Predictive Analytics, Software. Yet there is NOBODY in the company with those skill sets.

CrunchBase says Surgisphere has one employee, CEO Sapan Desai, MD, PhD, MBA, FACS.

LinkedIn shows Ariane Anderson is the "Director Of Sales Marketing" at Quartz Clinical from Sep 2018 to Present. She has an Associate's [sic] Degree in General Education from Chaffey College; completed the Phlebotomy certified program at the Phlebotomy Learning Center; and earned a Certificate as a Medical/Clinical Assistant from Chaffey College.

I'd say that Sergio Ritter is doing an exemplary job in the "Creative" department. I'd wager he is a protege of Don Draper.

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All of this should have set off HUGE RED FLAGS at The Lancet and they shouldn't have touched this crap with a ten foot pole, but they are so anxious to GET TRUMP that they did zero due-diligence on this "study."

[tired&retired]

Brigham & Women’s Hospital DR’S WORKED WITH THE CIA..

How doctors helped the CIA get better at torture

Dan Diamond December 10, 2014

It’s not uncommon around the world to see doctors involved in torture. Reviewing the Senate Intelligence Committee’s newly released report, Atul Gawande, Samuel O. Thier Professor of Surgery at Brigham and Women’s Hospital, points to nearly a dozen individual examples of physicians playing a role in the CIA’s interrogation and treatment of detainees.

[DugwayDuke]

From the article: “hydroxychloroquine—a drug that, while unproven as a treatment for COVID-19, has been in use in hospital settings for decades and had not shown such major negative effects in studies up until this point.”

Horseapples. Are we to believe that all those patients who’ve received hydroxychloroquine for lupus, arthritis, and malaria were treated only in hospitals?
When I was in the Army in Korea (74/75), hydroxychloroquine was on everytable in the mess hall. We were ordered to take IIRC two tables a week. No one was in a hospital environment. No one was under a doctor’s care. No one suffered adverse reactions. The drug is incredibly safe. About as unsafe as aspirin.

[TBP]

It’s politics, not science — just another effort to damage President Trump.

[freeandfreezing]

No need for an audit, just publish the data. It should have already been anonymized, if not then that should be done.

Given the difficulty in accessing medical records anywhere it seems unlikely that a complete set of electronically recorded patient data would be available so quickly in the middle of the COVID-19 outbreak. Also, reconciling the different formats of electronically stored medical information from around the world is a complex problem.

That doesn't sound like something that a couple of people in an office somewhere can pull off in a few weeks.

The whole story sounds implausible. It is time to either show the data or retract the study.

[freeandfreezing]

The code behind the supposedly "machine learning" based Surgisphere Covid-19 severity scoring tool is just simple conditional code - the kind of thing a college student writes as a homework assignment.

The programmers among us can just do a view source on the page and see for themselves.

It may have some utility, but is no more sophisticated than a chart with statements like "If the patient has a temperature of 104 degrees and their blood oxygen level is less than 80% then they are in critical condition"

That seems like something a first year medical student would know regardless of the disease.

[mewzilla]

More on LancetGate...

LancetGate: Pulling a Fast One on Proponents of Hydroxychloroquine and Chloroquine Shaky data from a leading medical journal that progressive opinion has swallowed with delight.