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This city disbanded its police department 7 years ago. Here's what happened next
cnn ^ | Scottie Andrew

Posted on 06/09/2020 8:06:24 AM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

Yeah, let’s make America like Camden.


41 posted on 06/09/2020 8:57:19 AM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

Right on. The point made, but probably unwittingly, is that Camden wasn’t without a law enforcement agency after the disbanding. total abandonment is what the neo-abolitionists want for their cities. It’s nothing more than a crass power grab , since what they emplace as an alternative will be corrupted from the start by ideology. Which, as usual for banana republics, will lead to financial and other sorts of corruption.


42 posted on 06/09/2020 9:00:11 AM PDT by DPMD (uo)
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To: 17th Miss Regt

No too close to police. How about the force? Kind of Star Wars no?


43 posted on 06/09/2020 9:00:28 AM PDT by xp38
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

Next CNN will report that MS13 is excepting BLM as members.
No shame in the media


44 posted on 06/09/2020 9:02:42 AM PDT by Vaduz (women and children to be impacIQ of chimpsted the most.)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

Another thing CNN failed to mention is that the police force covering Camden went from 2/3 minority members to a larger force that was only 43% minority. So CNN, does that mean the solution to lowering crime in these hellholes like Camden is increasing the number of white officers? Because that is what happened in Camden!

I am not saying that is the solution, just pointing out the one-sidedness of the way fake-news CNN presents this.


45 posted on 06/09/2020 9:03:34 AM PDT by Freedumb
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas
Jobs and senior services are being cut to the bone

by Michael Zielenziger, From the AARP Bulletin Print Edition, May 1, 2011 | Comments: 20

Vallejo, Calif. At 11 a.m. on a Friday morning, you'd be hard-pressed to file a police report or meet with a detective in this sprawling blue-collar city of 120,000. The city's sole police station is closed to the public three days a week, and its three substations are permanently shuttered.

Drug sales are on the rise and so is prostitution on Sonoma Boulevard, one of the town's main drags. Burglaries are commonplace. Amid a rising tide of unemployment — 12 percent — and a surge of foreclosed homes, squatters have taken hold even in upscale areas.

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"Vallejo is just going to pot," says lifelong resident Marti Thornton, 54. "It once felt like the town was getting itself together, but now things are really getting worse."

"People who used to eat at Taco Bell now are robbing Taco Bell," says Nancy, a 69-year-old resident who didn't want her last name published.

Situated at the mouth of the Napa River about 25 miles north of San Francisco, Vallejo holds a prominent place in California history. It was the first state capital in 1852, and for nearly 150 years was the site of one of the nation's most important naval shipyards.

In 2008, it achieved a new kind of distinction — the state's largest city to file for bankruptcy.

FLASH FORWARD TO 2020

A decade after Vallejo, Calif. entered bankruptcy, the city appears to have turned a corner.

“Vallejo has done a ground-up restructuring,” said Karol Denniston, a partner with Squire Patton Boggs LLP. “They are now routinely one of the top 10 cities where people want to live, which is a huge turn-around from when they entered bankruptcy.”

Scars still remain from the Chapter 9 bankruptcy process. And many of the city's markers of success in 2018, as with the troubles that drove the city into bankruptcy court in 2008, stem from economic factors beyond its control.

Credit partly goes to the exorbitant real estate prices in San Francisco, where the median house sells for $1 million.

“We are benefiting from the fact that people would rather spend an hour riding the ferry to San Francisco then sitting in their car commuting,” said James Cooper, president and chief executive officer of the Vallejo Chamber of Commerce.

Prices have also jumped in communities like Oakland that once offered affordable alternatives, pushing buyers further out.

Vallejo, about 30 miles north of San Francisco, had a population of 118,280 as of June 2017, making it the tenth most populous city in the Bay Area, according to its 2017-18 comprehensive annual financial report.

Though Vallejo is dogged by a reputation for high unemployment and crime, as well as its historic bankruptcy, realtor.com named it the nation's hottest housing market in 2016.

The median listing price in Vallejo has grown to $420,000 in April 2018 from $290,000 in May 2015, according to realtor.com.

“Prices have probably grown by 25% in the starter home category in the last two years; and we have seen prices rising by 7% to 9% for the past several months,” said Johnny Walker, president of the Solano Association of Realtors.

Denniston credited city leaders for turning around the relationships with its police and fire employees, which were fractious heading into the bankruptcy.

“It looks like someone was able to improve those relationships,” Denniston said. “You have to bring the employees and the taxpayers along at the same time to reach a good consensus on financial goals.”

Vallejo filed for Chapter 9 bankruptcy on May 17, 2008, claiming it could no longer afford to pay wages and benefits promised to its employees.

"Vallejo was the first case in which a judge said I can allow the debtor to break or reject collective bargaining agreements," said Robert Christmas, a Nixon Peabody partner. "I think that set the tone in terms of making public service unions more willing to bargain."

The city exited Chapter 9 in August 2011.

46 posted on 06/09/2020 9:03:50 AM PDT by spokeshave
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To: struggle

Once again CNN, going all Joseph Goebbels. When a Department is dissolved, it will fall under the jurisdiction of Sheriiff, County or State Police...more lies dished out to those who are nothing more than sheeple.


47 posted on 06/09/2020 9:05:57 AM PDT by MGunny ( Al)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

You actually read it??


48 posted on 06/09/2020 9:07:21 AM PDT by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: jazminerose

jazminerose wrote:

“And the entire thing is based one a huge lie.

More whites are shot by police than blacks, the ratio is nearly 2:1.

When a black suspect is shot by police, the officer is statistically more likely to be black than white.

In 99% of all encounters, no force is used by police.

When force *is* used, 98% of the time, no injuries are sustained by the suspect.

(The last two came from a peer reviewed trauma medicine journal. The rest have been empirically proven via peer reviewed studies)

If I didn’t have a migraine, I would dig out all of the links. The info is all available. For now.

**This is a huge and extremely dangerous hoax and grand corporate shakedown.**”

What is the shooting rate, when per capital is figured in? Blacks are 12% of the population, and whites are around 62 to 73%.


49 posted on 06/09/2020 9:08:44 AM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000)
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To: 17th Miss Regt

The Soviet Union called theirs the “militia” in order to avoid the association with “police”.


50 posted on 06/09/2020 9:08:52 AM PDT by billakay
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To: jazminerose

capital s/b capita.


51 posted on 06/09/2020 9:09:33 AM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000)
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To: jazminerose
More whites are shot by police than blacks, the ratio is nearly 2:1.

Blacks account for a majority of murder and robbery arrests, the crimes most likely to have police arrest with drawn weapons.

This indicates that white police officers hesitate to shoot a black offender, even when doing so puts themselves at risk, because they want to avoid a possible riot over it.

52 posted on 06/09/2020 9:10:40 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 ("Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities." -- Voltaire)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

They still have police. In fact, they have more police. And they have rehired most of the cops that they “defunded.”

This is a story about nothing.


53 posted on 06/09/2020 9:11:00 AM PDT by Rocky
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

And the county hired half of Camden’s police dept. back.

Some “little village” got rid of it’s police dept. because they couldn’t afford the $200k expense. Now they have a sheriff. Hmm, ok, so how large was the police dept.? Huh, maybe a deputy more than the one sheriff today? $200k doesn’t go very far with salaries, the building rent/utilities/up keep/cleaning, a couple jail cells, inmates’ 3 squares/cot/medical, office equipment, a couple of outfitted vehicles/gas/maintenance... What’s the budget with the one guy? Either there’s some funny bookkeeping going on or he’s working for free, providing his own weapon, uniform and vehicle and is officed in his mama’s basement.


54 posted on 06/09/2020 9:11:53 AM PDT by bgill
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

Sounds like they simply dissolved the old police department - and re-hired the old officers for the new one.

I’m not against “community policing” at all. Its a form of devolved, local government and services that the Founders always had in mind.

The question to make sure is - the new police are truly from the community, the new police also enforce the laws fairly and aren’t merely a group controlled by political actors higher up. That would be disastrous.

Also be sure to take away their public union. That’s a big part of any government bureacracy corruption and inability to change.

ALSO - dissolve school districts and teachers unions too. Localize that as well!


55 posted on 06/09/2020 9:12:15 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: headstamp 2

Agreed! Then any opposition will be (Roger) Stoned with midnight raids and arrests!


56 posted on 06/09/2020 9:13:36 AM PDT by SgtHooper (If you remember the 60's, YOU WEREN'T THERE!)
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To: uranium penguin

You offer the guy a ride to the city limit, then haul him in to the county jail and call ICE.


57 posted on 06/09/2020 9:13:49 AM PDT by bgill
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To: struggle
My city here in Michigan has a population of 88,208 and no police department either..........

We're protected by the Macomb County Sheriff Dept.....

58 posted on 06/09/2020 9:18:09 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco
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To: Salman

You’re right; it was a bankrupt city with no tax base. It is a creepy place to pass through not because it is filled with wilding ferals, but because it is deserted and spooky.


59 posted on 06/09/2020 9:21:26 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: Hot Tabasco
My city here in Michigan has a population of 88,208 and no police department either.......... We're protected by the Macomb County Sheriff Dept.....

Not unusual, towns in Saratoga County NY have Sheriffs AND we contract with the state police.

60 posted on 06/09/2020 9:21:51 AM PDT by 1Old Pro (#openupstateny)
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