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1 posted on 07/08/2020 9:27:48 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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Isn’t H1N1 from the Spanish Flu from 100 years ago still around?


2 posted on 07/08/2020 9:28:43 AM PDT by frogjerk (We are conservatives. Not libertarians, not "fiscal conservatives", not moderates)
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"According to Johns Hopkins, 70%-90% of the population (230-300 million Americans) needs to develop protective antibodies to COVID-19 to achieve herd immunity."

That's really disheartening. I was hoping herd immunity would be achievable closer to 60 or 65%.

3 posted on 07/08/2020 9:30:37 AM PDT by 2aProtectsTheRest
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No one knows anything. Time will tell.


6 posted on 07/08/2020 9:34:28 AM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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There seems to be disagreement with JHU’s assertions here:

“Today, our national HIT(Herd Immunity Threshold) is roughly 15%, which means we are almost done, no matter what any Governor does.”

“The Herd Immunity Threshold (“HIT”) for COVID-19 is between 10-20%
This fact gets less press than any other. Most people understand the basic concept of herd immunity and the math behind it. In the early days, some public health officials speculated that COVID-19’s HIT was 70%. Obviously, the difference between a HIT of 70% and a HIT of 10-20% is dramatic, and the lower the HIT, the quicker a virus will burn out as it loses the ability to infect more people, which is exactly what COVID-19 is doing everywhere, including the U.S, which is why the death curve above(attached) looks the way it looks.”
https://off-guardian.org/2020/07/07/second-wave-not-even-close/

And here(charts, numbers, discussion):
https://wmbriggs.com/post/31431/

JHU is all-in and all aboard the Money Train.
https://www.centerforhealthsecurity.org/event201/about
We trust them as far as we can throw them, which is not at all.


7 posted on 07/08/2020 9:41:54 AM PDT by JCL3 (As Richard Feynman might have said, this is reality taking precedence over public relations.)
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Democrats rejoice.


8 posted on 07/08/2020 9:42:26 AM PDT by shanover (...To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.-S.Adams)
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Why anyone with a brain in their head would listen to anything this Fauci idiot says is beyond me.


9 posted on 07/08/2020 9:43:57 AM PDT by ptcmama
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I think we need to stop worrying excessively.....viruses will always be around....hunger, famine,disease, war.....

people have always faced these things.....and always will.....

10 posted on 07/08/2020 9:59:53 AM PDT by cherry
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Well, if you look at the numbers (even though we know they are not accurate), in the United States some 40 million people have been tested and positive cases number 3,009,611, or just 7.73% of these tested, and this is not nationwide; there are hotspots. Of total cases, just 131,594 have died. That is 4.3%. Half have been elderly. The total population of the United States is a little over 328.2 million, and thus the total cases are just 0.91% and deaths are just .04% of the population.


11 posted on 07/08/2020 10:00:17 AM PDT by MrChips ("To wisdom belongs the apprehension of eternal things." - St. Augustine)
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Makes
No
Sense


12 posted on 07/08/2020 10:00:17 AM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire. Or both.)
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$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ vs. cents


14 posted on 07/08/2020 10:03:25 AM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again,")
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That’s not how herd immunity works... it isn’t dependent on a vaccine.


15 posted on 07/08/2020 10:04:04 AM PDT by pgyanke (Republicans get in trouble when not living up to their principles. Democrats... when they do.)
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So people, Let’s get this through our heads. It’s no longer “flatten the curve!”. It is now “We must never completely lift lockdowns or we will all die!”


18 posted on 07/08/2020 10:21:40 AM PDT by lastchance (Credo.)
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It is not unusual for persons who have a weak or shortened course of a virus to not fully develop antibodies. It is the same with needing boosters for vaccines. I have come to be skeptical about experts who announce their small scale controlled studies should be applied wholesale to the general population despite any empirical evidence that contradicts it.


20 posted on 07/08/2020 10:25:32 AM PDT by lastchance (Credo.)
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How will they differentiate between COVID-19 and the common cold, since both can be coronaviruses?


23 posted on 07/08/2020 10:31:56 AM PDT by BuffaloJack ("Security does not exist in nature. Everything has risk." Henry Savage)
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To claim that any vaccine would be more effective at achieving herd immunity than the original virus is scientific gibberish.


25 posted on 07/08/2020 10:35:58 AM PDT by sourcery (Non Aquiesco: "I do not consent" (Latin))
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Go jump in the lake with your phony vaccine.


29 posted on 07/08/2020 10:49:34 AM PDT by fortheDeclaration
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Where’s the cold vaccine?


30 posted on 07/08/2020 10:53:58 AM PDT by 9422WMR
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Fauci:

Two weeks to flatten the curve.

No, you don’t need a mask as they are useless against a virus.


37 posted on 07/08/2020 11:41:28 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (Freep mail me if you want to be on my Fingerstyle Acoustic Guitar Ping List)
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Wouldn’t a scientist know that herd immunity has nothing to do with a vaccine? Herd immunity is the result of a natural process.


40 posted on 07/08/2020 11:57:53 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam
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SCIENCE!!


43 posted on 07/08/2020 12:12:01 PM PDT by dljordan
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