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If the Electoral College ties at 269 (vanity)
9/27/20

Posted on 09/27/2020 5:51:05 PM PDT by Borges

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To: servantboy777

Thanks for the note. There is a good chance the polls are wrong again. You are absolutely correct about that. There is however a small chance the polls may be capturing real trends. I am reluctant to dismiss them completely (like people here did in 2008). Hope my reasoning is wrong and that Trump wins comfortably on Nov 3.


41 posted on 09/27/2020 8:30:15 PM PDT by nwrep
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No disrespect. Not arguing or being snarky, but don't listen to all this nonsense. The polls were wrong in 2016 and they are being used YET AGAIN to deceive and manipulate.

Quite possibly part of Stage 2 of a Marxist revolution: create the impression of popular support. Trump apparently losing Whites, seniors and military is still concerning, though.

42 posted on 09/28/2020 6:16:11 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (The Constitution guarantees the States protection against insurrection. Act now, Mr. President!)
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>>Trump apparently losing Whites, seniors and military is still concerning, though.<<

Curious...where is it you are hearing/reading this? I'm a political-news junkie and have been for decades. I'm not seeing this. Quite the contrary.

I love watching Trump rallies, roadside support, boat/auto parades and so forth....I see mostly ex-military, large attendance of folks over 50 and almost the exact proportion of whites/blacks/Hispanics/women/Asians as represented in American society.

Seriously...check out any Trump rally. This IS the true polling. Thousands of people of all sorts as listed above arriving, standing in line to get the opportunity to attend a Trump pep rally. Scan the crowd.

I am not worried at all. Concerned in regards to cheating, but Trump is going to win hands down.
1. Very difficult to unseat an incumbent president.
2. Trump support among conservatives/republicans is 95%+
3. Enormous walk away movement of democrats/Hispanics/Gays/Blacks/Jewish folks vowing to abandon the left.
4. More black/Hispanic candidates running for traditional liberal seats.
5. The lawlessness is pushing people away from liberal run cities. Pushing folks to support conservatives for the simple fact they are tired of the liberal run city violence, taxes, poverty, burdening regulation.

Don't get me wrong...the leftist WILL get at least 43% of the vote. That's a done deal. It is the other 7-10% that will push DJT over the top.

God did not give us a spirit of fear, but of power, love and a sound mind. It's all gewd brother. Enjoy election night. The leftist are going to get their butts handed to them.

43 posted on 09/28/2020 6:43:49 AM PDT by servantboy777
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To: Borges

Per 12th Amendment: “The person having the greatest Number of votes for President, shall be the President, if such number be a majority of the whole number of Electors appointed”.

It’s not necessarily whether there is a tie, if no person gets a majority (i.e. faithless electors or potential states not certifying the election or failing to “appoint” Electors), the decision devolves to Congress.


44 posted on 09/28/2020 7:03:49 AM PDT by Steely eyed killer of the deep (When in the course of human events...)
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Waht section of the Constitution has the provision "those resistor states lose 1/2 their electoral votes"?
45 posted on 09/28/2020 7:07:28 AM PDT by Steely eyed killer of the deep (When in the course of human events...)
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To: Steely eyed killer of the deep

Looks like I repeated something w/o research.

I cannot find this in the Constitution and thanks for alerting me. I do not want to promulgate an untruth.

It may be a conflation of articles regarding various scenarios in a disputed election.

I cannot quite understand what happens when an electoral slate is divided and what the recourse is besides a recount.

It looks as though an outright refusal to certify will result in the case going to courts and legislature and uncertified electoral slates can be thrown out, but I believe that is under an Electoral Vote Count _Rule_ & not the Constitution. It sets up a Constitutional Crisis.

If a state cannot certify due to divisions in the electors, it looks as though that state can be dropped from the electoral count and that is when the bar drops.


46 posted on 09/28/2020 9:10:23 AM PDT by reformedliberal (Make yourself less available.)
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To: Borges

It’s a little known fact based on the 2016 results, if IA 6EV, NC 15EV, and MI 16EV all flip from Republican to Democrat, it wuld result in a 269EV tie.


47 posted on 09/28/2020 9:47:32 AM PDT by Steely eyed killer of the deep (When in the course of human events...)
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