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Anyone Who Thinks Amy Coney Barrett Can Magically 'End' Roe v. Wade Doesn’t Understand The Law
Townhall.com ^ | September 28, 2020 | Erin Elmore ESQ

Posted on 09/28/2020 4:56:04 AM PDT by Kaslin

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21 posted on 09/28/2020 5:35:07 AM PDT by PGalt
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Good, instructive article.

The comments? Not so much.


22 posted on 09/28/2020 5:42:14 AM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: Kaslin
However, all justices are bound by their oath. Justices are not advocates.

Except if their last name is Sullivan in which case all bets are off.

23 posted on 09/28/2020 5:42:56 AM PDT by Timocrat (Ingnorantia non excusat)
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To: Vermont Lt

Yup.


24 posted on 09/28/2020 5:47:33 AM PDT by americas.best.days... ( Donald John Trump has pulled the sword from the stone.)
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To: PGalt
"“Settled” law. It’s in the PENUMBRA.

It could be an Emanation.

25 posted on 09/28/2020 5:48:01 AM PDT by Timocrat (Ingnorantia non excusat)
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To: jeffc
The judicial branch does not legislate or write laws.

The last sentence is pure joke...

You mean the Obama Justus department was correct and the "Unaffordable Care Act" aka Obamacare, wasn't a tax ?

26 posted on 09/28/2020 5:53:22 AM PDT by Timocrat (Ingnorantia non excusat)
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To: Kaslin

didn’t ACB say that as she understands it, RVW is settled law?
I don’t think her supporters are going to get what they think they’ll have.


27 posted on 09/28/2020 5:56:21 AM PDT by ronniesgal (Q. why did the chicken cross the road? A. It's Trumps fault and you're a racist!)
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“didn’t ACB say that as she understands it, RVW is settled law?”

She definitely did. The video was shown a couple times last week. (IIRC, Sandra Day O’Connor said the same thing.)


28 posted on 09/28/2020 6:02:27 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam (Disappointment is inevitable. Discouragement is a choice.)
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To: Kaslin
Essentially, it is a legal doctrine that obligates courts to follow historical cases with similar fact patterns in similar manners. Otherwise said, the case at hand is to be decided by the decisions of similar cases in the past. The past rules the future. This provides stability, predictability, and integrity within the justice system.

This point has a huge flaw. If the case at hand is bound by the decisions of similar cases in the past, then how did it ever get to the U.S. Supreme Court in the first place? If stare decisis overrides all other legal and judicial considerations, then there's no reason to ever have similar cases come before the court -- right?

29 posted on 09/28/2020 6:03:03 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("ThereÂ’s somebody new and he sure ain't no rodeo man.")
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To: Kaslin

Thanks for posting this very informative article. I get blue in the face trying to explain these basic concepts to RedTards.


30 posted on 09/28/2020 6:20:36 AM PDT by Kid Shelleen (Beat your plowshares into swords. Let the weak say I am strong)
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To: jeffc
Argument kinda fell apart here. I do NOT think the liberal wing of SCOTUS feels beholden to any oath or precedent, they are out to reshape society in their view. The last sentence is pure joke...

This is true. Stare decisis never stopped a leftist judge. Roe v Wade itself is an example, as is "gay marriage". The same will be true when a future leftist court rules the 2nd amendment null and void.

31 posted on 09/28/2020 6:30:50 AM PDT by Sans-Culotte (Does the left like anything about America?)
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To: 9YearLurker

Exactly! Moreover, anyone who thinks the death of Roe v. Wade is going to end abortion is badly mistaken.


32 posted on 09/28/2020 6:31:29 AM PDT by ManHunter (You can run, but you'll only die tired... Army snipers: Reach out and touch someone)
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To: Vermont Lt

Agreed.
One of the reasons the Judicial Branch is supposed to run slow and not legislate is so changes to political power don’t create legal chaos.

Over use of Executive Orders, State non-voted mandates all bring the USA closer to legal chaos.
They set a precedent for future legal decisions which in themselves are technically non-constitutional.


33 posted on 09/28/2020 6:58:36 AM PDT by Zathras
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To: Kaslin
a woman’s right to abortion.

BULSH!

The word abortion, nor any obscure references to it nor any other medical procedure are to be found in the Constitution.

If, in fact, this is all based on a "right to privacy" (which is also not mentioned in the Constitution) but rather the Fourth Amendment, which outlines "The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures"...then it should pertain only to the sacrosanct "doctor/patient confidentiality"...not "the right" to kill babies.

Since DNA became common knowledge, we know that the embryo/fetus is not just a random clump of cells, like a tumor...nor is it the same DNA as the mother ("my body")....it is an individual, and the DNA also types it as a human being...a person.

This brief layman glance at the topic screams out that the ruling merely allows the patient and the "doctor" (first do no harm) to participate in the coverup of a murder.....but not the right to commit the murder.

If murder is a crime in any given state, then once any abortion or infanticide is discovered or revealed...it should be prosecuted as any other murder....R.v.W at that point would be immaterial.

34 posted on 09/28/2020 7:02:05 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Unlike Jeffery Epstein, George Floyd DID kill himself.)
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To: Kaslin

Anyone who thinks Barrett can’t damage Roe by pushing it back to the states just doesn’t understand political dynamics and how they will work on this issue.


35 posted on 09/28/2020 8:08:00 AM PDT by jmaroneps37
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To: Kaslin

The media never lets facts get in the way of a story.
In the pimping business there are no rules also note democrat rules.


36 posted on 09/28/2020 8:52:49 AM PDT by Vaduz (women and children to be impacIQ of chimpsted the most.)
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To: Jim Noble
The only thing Roe v. Wade did was to enjoin enforcement of existing State laws. It did not “legalize” abortion

It most certainly did through 20-plus weeks by preventing states from banning it before that point.

37 posted on 09/28/2020 8:53:53 AM PDT by Kazan
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All it will take to overturn Roe vs. Wade is five Supreme Court Justices deciding to do so.


38 posted on 09/28/2020 9:19:33 AM PDT by Arcadian Empire
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Overturning Roe vs. Wade will pave the way for laws against aborion.


39 posted on 09/28/2020 9:22:43 AM PDT by Arcadian Empire
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To: Olog-hai

Exactly! When I was an undergrad student in college I had a government class as a part of my major and the professor was a hard core conservative but he liked to have real honest debate in the class and you had to defend your position with logic, I feel... didn’t count.

We were discussing SCOTUS decisions and Roe V. Wade came up and we had some pretty hard core leftist in this class who were not afraid to speak up in a debate and conservatives as well who fired back. When he announced the next case Roe V. Wade for discussion they started up and he said fine, defend your position and do it based on the decision rendered by the majority justices at the time and then he started reading the majority decision aloud and the conservatives in the class were whispering were these justices on an LSD trip when they wrote this pile of festering non-sense?

Finally one of the biggest and loudest liberals in the class stood up and said professor the majority decision is deluded cannot be backed with legal precedent, it’s not logical or even based in reality or law, there is no way I can get to that point using the majority decision, but I still think abortion should be legal and quietly sat down and hung his head. The professor took his victory and moved on to the next court case.


40 posted on 09/28/2020 11:55:52 AM PDT by sarge83
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