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How a Pledge to Dismantle the Minneapolis Police Collapsed. When a majority of City Council members promised to “end policing as we know it” after George Floyd’s killing, they became a case study in how idealistic calls for structural change can falter.
New York Times ^ | September 26, 2020 | Astead W. Herndon

Posted on 09/28/2020 10:58:27 AM PDT by karpov

MINNEAPOLIS — Over three months ago, a majority of the Minneapolis City Council pledged to defund the city’s police department, making a powerful statement that reverberated across the country. It shook up Capitol Hill and the presidential race, shocked residents, delighted activists and changed the trajectory of efforts to overhaul the police during a crucial window of tumult and political opportunity.

Now some council members would like a do-over.

Councilor Andrew Johnson, one of the nine members who supported the pledge in June, said in an interview that he meant the words “in spirit,” not by the letter. Another councilor, Phillipe Cunningham, said that the language in the pledge was “up for interpretation” and that even among council members soon after the promise was made, “it was very clear that most of us had interpreted that language differently.” Lisa Bender, the council president, paused for 16 seconds when asked if the council’s statement had led to uncertainty at a pivotal moment for the city.

“I think our pledge created confusion in the community and in our wards,” she said.

The regrets formalize a retreat that has quietly played out in Minneapolis in the months since George Floyd was killed by the police and the ensuing national uproar over the treatment of Black Americans by law enforcement and the country at large. After a summer that challenged society’s commitment to racial equality and raised the prospect of sweeping political change, a cool autumn reality is settling in.

National polls show decreasing support for Black Lives Matter since a sea change of good will in June. In Minneapolis, the most far-reaching policy efforts meant to address police violence have all but collapsed.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; US: Minnesota; US: New York
KEYWORDS: 1619project; andrewjohnson; asteadwherndon; blm; defund; georgefloyd; lisabender; minneapolis; minnesota; newyork; newyorkcity; newyorkslimes; newyorktimes; phillipecunningham; police
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1 posted on 09/28/2020 10:58:27 AM PDT by karpov
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To: karpov

It wasn’t a good idea? Strange that no one said this might not be a good idea.


2 posted on 09/28/2020 11:00:56 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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“Now some council members would like a do-over.”

Liberals often talk about something they know nothing about and then are forced to back peddle when confronted by reality.

In other words, knee-jerk liberals.

3 posted on 09/28/2020 11:03:05 AM PDT by jeffersondem
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To: karpov

“We didn’t really mean it. Can’t you people take a joke?”


4 posted on 09/28/2020 11:03:12 AM PDT by kennedy (No relation to those other Kennedys.)
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To: karpov

Noting how communist propaganda headlines are always slanted. “Pledges” are usually understood as good things ( as your pledge to charity or pledge of allegiance). And “idealistic”
Is similarly associated with goodness. Two positive good associations in the headline for what? To remove The citizens’ police protection Say what we will about police, it’s not a good thing to disband them. Does anyone other then the NYT really believe they’d want to try to live ( survive, stay alive) without any police to call for help?


5 posted on 09/28/2020 11:03:18 AM PDT by faithhopecharity (Politicians are not born, they are excreted. Marcus Tullius Cicero (106 to 43 BCE))
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Nah, no do-overs, just route the 911 calls to the City Council’s phones, both at “work” and at home.


6 posted on 09/28/2020 11:05:01 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Celebrate Decivilization)
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To: karpov

This is more devious media support of Biden. Essentially they’re stating loud and clear that a very unpopular idea linked to the Democrats — defunding of the police — is not happening, so nothing to worry about, people. Vote for Joe!


7 posted on 09/28/2020 11:08:25 AM PDT by BlueStateRightist (Government is best which governs least.)
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Since their pledge, we have returned to “Murderapolis”, circa 1995.


8 posted on 09/28/2020 11:08:48 AM PDT by ButThreeLeftsDo (MAGA!!!)
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To: karpov

Members of a herd are not known for common sense and reason.


9 posted on 09/28/2020 11:09:03 AM PDT by RatRipper ( Democrats and socialists are vile liars, thieves and murderers - enemies of good and America.)
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It became a case study of stupidity meeting reality.


10 posted on 09/28/2020 11:09:13 AM PDT by PGR88
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It collapsed because it was one of the most stupid ideas ever.


11 posted on 09/28/2020 11:09:20 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Where do you find the word "except" in the 2nd Amendment?)
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Idealistic -

How many examples can we point to where the do-gooders have destroyed things?


12 posted on 09/28/2020 11:11:48 AM PDT by Altura Ct.
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Even taking into account that the leftists have devolved a common language, none of the various interpretations were less than absurd.


13 posted on 09/28/2020 11:16:08 AM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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The regrets formalize a retreat that has quietly played out in Minneapolis in the months since George Floyd was killed by the police

Uh, just no.
He died in police custody.
They DID NOT kill him.


14 posted on 09/28/2020 11:16:26 AM PDT by Kozak (DIVERSITY+PROXIMITY=CONFLICT)
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bookmark


15 posted on 09/28/2020 11:23:11 AM PDT by GOP Poet
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Astead W. Herndon, New York Slimes: ...a case study in how idealistic calls for structural change can falter... Councilor Andrew Johnson, one of the nine members who supported the pledge in June, said in an interview that he meant the words "in spirit," not by the letter. Another councilor, Phillipe Cunningham, said that the language in the pledge was "up for interpretation" and that even among council members soon after the promise was made, "it was very clear that most of us had interpreted that language differently." Lisa Bender, the council president, paused for 16 seconds when asked if the council’s statement had led to uncertainty at a pivotal moment for the city. "I think our pledge created confusion in the community and in our wards," she said.
There was no sea change -- even liberals get tired of being told blatant lies by the corrupt partisan media shills regurgitating DNC talking points.

16 posted on 09/28/2020 11:23:28 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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In the immortal words of Jerry Seinfeld...”What a shame...”


17 posted on 09/28/2020 11:23:46 AM PDT by ripnbang ("An armed man is a citizen, an unarmed man, a subject.")
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NO!!! you made yer bed now sleep in it... and eat yer damn peas!
18 posted on 09/28/2020 11:23:50 AM PDT by Chode (Send bachelors and come heavily armed.)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

whoops

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3888541/posts?page=16#16


19 posted on 09/28/2020 11:24:21 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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They’re not using the standard failed socialism line? “It’s a great idea, we just didn’t have the right people leading it.”


20 posted on 09/28/2020 11:26:01 AM PDT by polymuser (A socialist is a communist without the pow er to take everything from their citizens...yet.)
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