Posted on 12/09/2020 6:49:55 AM PST by where's_the_Outrage?
The US Army has fired or suspended 14 officers and enlisted soldiers at its Fort Hood, Texas, base and ordered policy changes to address chronic failures of leadership that contributed to a widespread pattern of violence, including murder, sexual assault and harassment....
The actions come after a year that saw at least 25 soldiers assigned to Fort Hood die due to suicide, homicide or accidents, including the bludgeoning death of Vanessa Guillen. The young soldier was missing for about two months before her remains were found.....
The firings include Army Maj Gen Scott Efflandt, who was left in charge of the base earlier this year when Guillen was killed, as well as Col Ralph Overland, the third cavalry regiment commander and his CSgt Major Bradley Knapp.
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Wasn’t this where that one nut shot up a bunch of people a number of years back?
They should fire the recruiters, not the officers at the base................
T post. BUMP!
I did not know an officer or an enlisted man for that matter could be fired.
I would agree with “mixing the sexes” comment. Could also be the LGBTQ bunch. I wouldn’t want my cot next to Rupaul either.
I cannot see how an offsetting rotating group of officers and enlisted can somehow be responsible for a culture like this. They are all sacrificial lambs.
It’s the soldiers themselves at fault. Either getting into shady crap, or their direct leadership allowing weirdo scumbags to continue on then they kill and rape fellow soldiers. Then it’s the decades long jacked-up culture surrounding the outside of Ft. Hood.
But a rotating set of leaders? No.
They’ll never do any analysis of serial integration and its possible role in the violence or harassment. That’s baked into the cake.
I forget who said it, but combining 18 - 25 year olds of both sexes in a high stress environment with frequent, lengthy separation from their families is like mixing gasoline with high-explosives and declaring “we have a policy against matches.” It just doesn’t work.
The military term is “relieved”. Often said he was relieved of command.
Provided they’re not awaiting courts martial this means retirement. But if they don’t have 3 year time in grade they will retire at the previous lower grade.
Putting women, sexual perverts and Muslims in the service.
Probably none of the important policies are open to review.
I did not know an officer or an enlisted man for that matter could be fired.
You are correct. Relieved of duty or command is the appropriate term. What follows that is up to the Commanding General. Article 32 Investigation maybe? Courts-Martial? Early retirement? Last assignment 1 year unaccompanied in in Korea? Many options.
As a retired officer, one can only wonder if unit commanders were encouraged not to report sexual harassment allegations.
Back in the 70s, my battalion commander would not allow a company commander to report anyone awol without his personal approval. He had an upper limit on how awols in the battalion. The man saw his battalion command as a stepping stone to general officer and felt too many awols would reflect on his leadership.
They don’t get fired in the sense of losing their job and being unemployed. They get shuffled off to some other non-glamorous duty where they have no responsibilities until they either resign or their enlistment runs out...their careers are over.
Step one for “fixing” a bad command climate in the military is for the command to preemptively punish everyone who hasn’t done anything wrong yet through extra taskers and paperwork, and briefings about how not to screw up.
Step two, particularly when suicides are a concern, is to establish a streamlined system for quickly moving troopers of concern out of the unit so they won’t become further statistics for that unit. It won’t change the numbers, but it will change where they record the numbers.
Step three is the “command climate survey” where the lower enlisted are encouraged to be candid with their opinions, which are supposedly anonymous. Those candid opinions will later be used against the unit collectively by the unit leadership ahead of step four.
Step four is where a bunch of people who didn’t get shitcanned at the beginning of this process are stort of quietly moved to other units on post or sent off for schooling. Whatever the original issue was that caused this process will be deemed resolved by this point because nobody who needed to answer for the issue on their OER or NCOER have already done so throughout the personnel shifts.
Relieved of command or duties.
Prosecuted under the UCMJ and given a punishment (pay, confinement, reduction of grade and/or discharge).
......Pearl Harbor Remembrance Day was a couple of days ago...if we had another Pearl Harbor-type event today, how would our military respond...?? .....LGBTQs, Muslims, perverts, openly homosexuals.....I just have to wonder....
Isn’t what you posted call :Modern American Management”?
Its the same set of procedures be it government or civilian (commercial) bureaucracy.
Discipline is the problem. There is none. The Army is a free for all party.
China views this as a weakness of our culture, society and military readiness. And don’t think for a minute that they are not studying ways to exploit this in the future.
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