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Is a National Split Inevitable?
Townhall.com ^ | December 14, 2020 | Scott Morefield

Posted on 12/14/2020 5:37:04 AM PST by Kaslin

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To: central_va

So, if the US divides in two, which one does China attack first?


21 posted on 12/14/2020 5:58:04 AM PST by cuban leaf (The political war playing out in every country now: Globalists vs Nationalists)
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To: DEPcom

Wow, EU countries can come and go but a US state can figure this out?


22 posted on 12/14/2020 5:58:41 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: Kaslin

Someone sent this to me, l am not the author but this sums it up pretty nicely.

For those who don’t get it!

Now you understand why there was never any action against the Clintons or Obama, how they destroyed emails and evidence and phones and servers, how they spied and wiretapped, how they lied to FISA, had conversations on the tarmac, sent emails to cover their asses after key meetings, how Comey and Brennan and Clapper never were brought to any justice, how the FBI and CIA lied, how the Steele Dossier was passed along, how phones got factory reset, how leak after leak to an accomplice media went unchecked, why George Soros is always in the shadows, why Romney and Paul and Bush and McCain were all involved, why they screamed Russia and pushed a sham impeachment, why no one ever goes to jail, why no one is ever charged, why nothing ever happens.
Why there was no wrongdoing in the FISA warrants, why the Durham report was delayed. Why Hunter will walk scott free. Why the FBI sat on the laptop.

Why the Biden’s connection to China was overlooked as was unleashed the perfect weapon, a virus that could be weaponized politically to bring down the greatest ever economy and usher in unverifiable mail in voting.
Why the media is 24/7 propaganda and lies, why up is down and down is up, right is wrong and wrong is right. Why social media silences the First Amendment and speaks over the President of the United States. This has been the plan by the Deep State all along. They didn’t expect Trump to win in 2016. He messed up their plans. Delayed it a little. They weren’t about to let it happen again.

Covid was weaponized, Governors helped shut down their states, the media helped shame and kill the economy, and the super lucky unverifiable mail in ballots were just the trick to make sure the career politician allegedly with hands in Chinese payrolls that couldn’t finish a sentence or collect a crowd, miraculously became the most popular vote recipient of all time.

You have just witnessed a coup, the overthrow of the US free election system, the end of our constitutional republic, and the merge of capitalism into the slide toward socialism. What will happen next? Expect the borders to open up. Increased immigration. Expect agencies like CBP and INS and Homeland Security to be muzzled or even deleted. Law enforcement will see continued defunding. The electoral college will be gone. History erased. Two Supreme Court Justices might be removed.

The Supreme Court will be packed.
Your 2nd Amendment will be attacked. If you have a manufacturing job or oil industry job, get ready. If you run a business, brace for impact. Maybe you’ll be on the hook for slavery reparations, or have your suburbs turned into Section 8 housing. Your taxes are gonna go up, and businesses will pay more. I could go on and on. There is no real recovery from this. The elections from here on will be decided by New York City, Chicago, and California. The Republic will be dead. Mob rule and appeasement will run rampant. The candidate who offers the most from the Treasury will get the most votes. But the votes voted won’t matter, just the ones received and counted. That precedent has been set.

“Benjamin Franklin was walking out of Independence Hall after the Constitutional Convention in 1787, when someone shouted out, ‘Doctor, what have we got? A republic or a monarchy?’”
Franklin responded, “A republic, if you can keep it.
Ladies and gentlemen, you will now lose your Republic.

You turned from God. You turned from family. You turned from country. You embraced degeneracy culture. You celebrated and looked to fools. You worshipped yourselves selfishly as you took for granted what men died to give you. You disregarded history and all it teaches. On your watch, America just died a little. It’s likely she’ll never be the same again.
Some of you have no idea what you’ve done. Sadly, some of you did.


23 posted on 12/14/2020 6:01:18 AM PST by jonsie
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To: OttawaFreeper

The town of Republic, Washington declared itself a “Santcuary City” for the 2nd Amendment where the new anti-gun rules enacted by the state would not be enforced.

The town’s police chief, Loren Culp, ran for Governor. He lost. Upon his loss, he also was notified that the town no longer needed a police chief!

I thought the 2nd Amendment sanctuary had been voted on and was a city thing - not just a police thing. I’m not sure where they stand now.


24 posted on 12/14/2020 6:02:22 AM PST by 21twelve (Ever Vigilant. Never Fearful!)
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To: Kaslin
Hey, THEY are the ones who came up with the whole idea of Jesusland.

I say it's worth a shot.

25 posted on 12/14/2020 6:02:24 AM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, demonicRATS would have no standards at all.)
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To: brownsfan
Too late. We are now a vassal state of China.

We can be sure that China is feverishly working to consolidate its grip in the U.S.

As I have said elsewhere, we are the walking dead, we just don't know it yet.

It's like our house has been taken over by Antifa thugs and we are out on the street...and Mom is still wondering what's in the pantry for dinner.

Forget dinner. The pantry's gone, the kitchen's gone, the house is gone. And the police aren't coming.

If we want the house, we are going to have to take it by force.

26 posted on 12/14/2020 6:02:42 AM PST by RoosterRedux
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To: RoosterRedux

“It’s like a cancer that has spread all over the body. It cannot be surgically removed.”

As a cancer survivor, I can tell you that cancers that have spread are quite often treated successfully every day. Not all cancers, but most. You don’t need surgery. A pill will often do the trick. A real smart pill!

There are significant unanswered questions about how this might be accomplished. First, and foremost, can it be done without an armed conflict? I’m not sure it can be. The last two wars (1876 & 1861) were pretty messy. Second, is there the will? I live in a deep south state and I read a lot about the civil war and how it began and played out. Our second war (1861) was not a unanimous event. There were places that refused to succeed. Even some who called themselves free from the confederacy — while living in the heart of the confederacy.

I, for one, would like to see it happen. It’s like a bad marriage. People split and go their ways. Often it is painful and sometimes not. Maybe we could be in the “not” category. If you can’t live together, then live apart!


27 posted on 12/14/2020 6:03:59 AM PST by icclearly
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To: Kaslin
California and like minded Blue states need to go their own way instead of attempting to reengineer (often by shady means) America to their current liking.
28 posted on 12/14/2020 6:04:32 AM PST by Vision (Obama corrupted, sought to weaken and fundamentally change America; he didn't plan on being stopped.)
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To: cuban leaf
The military is the last thing you should worry about.

Frst lets use the two country example, a session with the USA and a new country call it the RSA ( Republic of America).

Let's use the US Navy for example. The US Navy would not cease to exist post secession. It would be smaller but another navy would form, the RSN, supported by the RSA with 200,000,000 motivated free ( or free'er ) people ( formerly Texas and many other red states ).

In the 1940s (WWII) a nation of 120,000,000 had a huge Navy with 20 CVBG. The RSA with 200,000,000 could support a RSN with at least 7 or 8 CVBG's combined with the USNs reduced capability of 6 or 7 CVBGs ( down form 12 ). But the total CVBG would be much higher.

Like I said post secession the combined North American fleet would/could be even bigger and better then ever. The new free country would spend MORE on defense per capita and less on welfare.

The situation is DYNAMIC and not STATIC.

29 posted on 12/14/2020 6:06:09 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: jonsie

but this sums it up pretty nicely.
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It does. :-(


30 posted on 12/14/2020 6:09:27 AM PST by xenia ("In times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." George Orwell)
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To: RoosterRedux

“If we want the house, we are going to have to take it by force.”

Most people only fight when death is an acceptable alternative to their current condition. Bread and circuses. The American people are fed, and entertained by their phones and streaming services.

I don’t believe it’s too late to fix the schools, but if it is, then it’s over.


31 posted on 12/14/2020 6:10:29 AM PST by brownsfan (Schools. If we don't fix the schools, nothing else matters.)
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To: central_va

“Wow, EU countries can come and go but a US state can figure this out?”

It is a major wow, GA can not figure out how to conduct an election, how could they figure out how to handle a collapse of the Federal Government.

New York and California have the most to loose on a national split, they are very dependent on the USA government.


32 posted on 12/14/2020 6:10:52 AM PST by DEPcom (Fight for Trump)
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To: TangledUpInBlue
I picture it will happen in a several stages.

1) The social split. People split into two distinct group, the conservatives and the left who share little in common

2) Conservatives gradually migrate to states where their views are welcome, escaping liberal tyranny. Liberals in red state may move out because they can no longer lord over conservatives.

3) De-facto emergence of conservative sanctuary comprising red states.(emerging territorial division)

4) Conservative sanctuary flouts federal laws or edicts which they see infringe on liberty such as PC or aggressive affirmative action, and gun control

5) Blue states impose sanctions.

6) Red states resist.

7) ???

33 posted on 12/14/2020 6:11:46 AM PST by TigerLikesRoosterNew
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To: jonsie

RIP USA


34 posted on 12/14/2020 6:12:47 AM PST by HypatiaTaught (Covid killed our country)
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To: xenia

That is a huge question...The two parties and ideas are so intermingled....There is no geographical split like the North and the South...


35 posted on 12/14/2020 6:13:16 AM PST by JBW1949 (I'm really PC.....Patriotically Correct)
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To: xenia

My city and County including I voted for President Trump, as did my State.


36 posted on 12/14/2020 6:14:49 AM PST by Kaslin (Joe Biden will never be my President, and neither will Kamala Harris)
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To: Kaslin

And your vote as was mine was stolen by the Democrats. Biden did not win.


37 posted on 12/14/2020 6:17:06 AM PST by sport
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To: Brian Griffin

“Biden exuded anger even when he was way ahead in the polls.”

JanetReno


38 posted on 12/14/2020 6:18:51 AM PST by Varsity Flight ("War by the prophesies set before you." I Timothy 1:18)
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To: sport

And your vote as was mine was stolen by the Democrats. Biden did not win.


The steal, like the now 4 year long coup, is bipartisan in nature.


39 posted on 12/14/2020 6:19:23 AM PST by lodi90
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To: DEPcom

You can go to TNM.me and it is explained there how Texas would handle these pensions.

There has been a lot of work done at TNM for a roadmap forward for Texas leaving.

TEXAN FOR #TEXIT


40 posted on 12/14/2020 6:20:03 AM PST by eartick (Stupidity is expecting the government that broke itself to go out and fix itself. Texan for TEXIT!)
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