Posted on 02/03/2021 4:51:40 AM PST by ptsal
Gizmodo reported: If you have an Amazon Ring smart doorbell, there’s something you should know. A growing number of fire and police departments are interested in your doorbell — or to be frank, in its camera footage — especially if they feel it can help them in their investigations. In fact, there are now 2,014 departments in the program from every U.S. state except Montana and Wyoming.
[snip]...The program allows law enforcement officials to contact Ring users in a certain area and ask them to provide footage from their cameras that might be relevant to local investigations.
(Excerpt) Read more at childrenshealthdefense.org ...
Check the definition of "suspicious":
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“Suspicious” content is defined as any post, private message, comment, tag, transaction, or “any other user-generated content or transmission” that government officials later determine “commits, facilitates, incites, promotes, or otherwise assists the commission of a major crime.” Major crimes are defined as anything involving violence, domestic, or international terrorism, or a “serious drug offense.”
Things to think about.
Americans live in a surveillance state, done by our own hands.
1984’s got nothin on 2021.
It’s pretty amazing.
“Americans live in a surveillance state, done by our own hands.”
By just about any digital device you can think of. And most Americans cannot gobble it up fast enough with the latest technology that enables the most advanced surveillance that would make Hitler and Stalin blush with envy.
And if you are not on Farcebook, have the latest cell phone, computer or smart TV, people with such take the moral high ground and look down on you as though you are somehow inferior.
Yes. Our neighbors post surveillance videos online all the time showing strange cars driving by slowly or children taking all the Halloween candy that was left unattended. Another neighbor listens to what folks say in the vicinity of his camera. Another posted video of a nosy neighbor.
Just imagine the level of snitching Karens in the near future. (really already)
It is my understanding that I would have to sign up for the Amazon Ring Service to store the videos for greater than 24 hours. I use the Ring to see who is at my door but I do not have Amazon’s services so there are no saved videos. It could just be I did not set it up correctly, but I do not want saved videos so I am not concerned.
“...state except Montana and Wyoming.”
Happy I live in Montana.
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Home automation and security devices are great inventions but as an IT professional, I will never own any of the current breed because they are entirely too intrusive. I understand what they can capture and how they can essentially exfiltrate it from your home. It would be something that could be a violation of the 4th amendment if such applied to commercial entities. You are certainly not secure in your person or papers if you have these devices in your home because all the information they capture is sent to some cloud provider like Amazon as “personally anonymous” information. Ostensibly, they use this information for market research and product improvement, but it can be used for vastly more than that.
Anyone who has a smart phone that uses a social media app and has discussed buying a product where the device can record the audio will know this is true when they start seeing advertisements in the app for the products they discussed but never actually searched for. Sometimes its as simple as a local restaurant, but there have even been cases where pregnancy advertisements were sent by Target to homes where the pregnancy was a secret. How does that happen if they are not essentially snooping? (In the Target case, I believe they were sued for it because the pregnant woman was intending to get an abortion without her spouse’s knowledge and once he found out she couldn’t do so.)
Do not use products that have a cloud component that you must enable for the functionality to work. Alexa, Nest, Ring, any other automation products made by Amazon, Google, etc.
Automation products that have a home hub MAY be ok if you are privacy minded, but you have to do the research to determine if they are sending info back to any cloud provider.
Also of concern- network connected televisions. These have been known to record audio and sometimes video and send it back to the OEM. For smart-tv type functionality, purchase a third-party product like a Roku. Typically these perform better than the smart tv does anyway, since the smart tvs usually do not have sufficient processing power to quickly navigate menus like the Roku can.
Living in a surveillance state yet no one can agree how Brian Sicknick or Ashli Babbitt were killed.
A few months ago, I was driving with my wife, and we were discussing outdoor furniture for the new place. Her phone was turned on but not in use. I mentioned that Adirondack chairs were more comfortable than they looked. I hadn’t even thought of Adirondack chairs for years, much less talked about them, still less searched for them online. Within days, we were getting ads from Wayfair for, you guessed it, Adirondack chairs.
Yeah, they’re listening. All the time.
Sure, ask, and if they say no? I don't trust Amazon. I'm sure if LE then went to Amazon and asked for it, they'd get it. I believe they only say LE will ask the user so as to make it sound voluntary and not like a rampant invasion of privacy.
1 of the reasons I dumped Twatter and Fakebook, the ads were highly repetitive, sexist, sexually inapproiate, and the INCREASED CENSORSHIP. Can’t mention Bydumb, Dems, GUN CONFISCATION or COVID at all now, WON’T POST. New form went up yesterday. Horrid style. Ripe for kiddie Porn.
Is there a alternative to U Tube for music? Or posting your G. Grand nephew getting beat on school bus by a kid 100lbs more than he is driver doing nothing? Kid has Duchene’s MD so he is subjected to bullying, beatings, he can’t speak or walk normal, wheelchair not to far off, he will be lucky to live to 40. Duchenes kills. Mom’s not much better health wise. He will go for Emancipation from abusive ex-dad in July.
What could possibly go wrong with allowing unmitigated access to security camera footage?
I mean, it’s not like the FBI or CIA is corrupt, or anything like that.
Put up fake ones:
WALI Solar Powered Bullet Dummy Fake Simulated Surveillance Security CCTV Dome Camera Indoor Outdoor with 1 LED Light, Security Alert Sticker Decal (SOLTC-S4), 4 Packs, Silver.
30 $’
These and the portable stick to the wall door bell ringers.
And if you are not on Farcebook, have the latest cell phone, computer or smart TV, people with such take the moral high ground and look down on you as though you are somehow inferior.
Not on Farcebook or any site besides FR. Our cell phones are not too/very smart Androids going on 5 years old and a semi smart 6 year old tv.
We cut our cable about 3 years ago.
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