Posted on 02/04/2021 8:28:49 AM PST by xzins
That this is debatable, in any US jusrisdiction, makes the issue of whether it passes or not almost irrelevant.
Having coached track, and having both the girl’s team and the boy’s team, the differences are so obvious: speed, strength, and size cannot be combined nor can the difference be overlooked.
Agreed. The culture is crazy.
A male is a male, and there is no need to put “biological” before it. You are a male, or not a male.
I don’t especially care about courts. I care about excellence in the sport.
In many ways this is no different than weight classes in boxing or wrestling.
I’m interested in what a male can achieve, what a female can achieve. The awards are only incentives to get them to perform their best.
I agree.
When you go to court, the courts might speak in that language, so we need to know it.
Exactly
Who are the 13% not agreeing?
https://www.cbssports.com/soccer/news/a-dallas-fc-under-15-boys-squad-beat-the-u-s-womens-national-team-in-a-scrimmage/
>Kind of like when the Texas boys under 15 soccer team beat the U.S. wymyns national soccer team?
Yeah, I’ve had the girls scrimmage against the boys in soccer and it’s always a slaughter. Offense/strikers are somewhat equal but male midfielders can usually run a mile 2 minutes faster and keep running minutes longer than girls without resting and male defense is very strong and aggressive. The goalkeeps are worlds different too because female keeps won’t instruct their defense to respond to corner kicks and point out intruding offense while guys will.
Finally, when guys are down a point, they get pissed and want to win, girls slack.
They’re just two different physical and emotional worlds and it’s frustrating that libs will toss a group of women that worked hard for their field positions to a lackluster male in a wig.
The "created equal" assertion in our Declaration of independence DOESN'T extend to physiological equality. Manifestly, "all men" are NOT created physiologically equal, and to assert otherwise would be to make an inherently false assertion.
The "created equal" assertion is linked directly to "certain unalienable rights" in a manner indicating that this is the realm wherein the principle applies. As elaborated upon in The Constitution, in The Bill of Rights and several further Amendments, this equality is nowhere extended in a manner that contravenes that sense expressed in The Declaration; no purported equality of human physiology is anywhere countenanced. The sense of equality enshrined in The Constitution is that selfsame sense pertaining to elemental rights, their true source, and the role of government in securing those rights to the people.
“the cases you cite were nothing more than circus acts or freak shows where a men’s team that was focused on something other than winning used a female athlete as a publicity stunt.”
If you’ll notice, none of the cases I cited were amateur sports. And the only one of those that was a publicity stunt was the Hockey player and she played in Tampa’s minor league hockey system for 5 years. Awful long publicity stunt. And women in pro baseball (MLB) have been around for many years but have not been in the show for long. In the spring of 1931, the Yankees played an exhibition game against the Chattanooga Lookouts, a Minor League team in the Southern Association. Lookouts owner Joe Engel started Jackie Mitchell, a 17-year-old girl from Memphis, Tenn., to pitch in the game. She struck out Ruth and Gehrig. Never made the big club.
You’re missing the point of my entry. Personally I could care less about gender competitions. But the NCAA, the level we are talking about from their bill (and they didn’t mention the NCAA in it), currently awards 90 national championships yearly – 46 women’s, 41 men’s, and coed championships for fencing, rifle, and skiing. Sports sanctioned by the NCAA include the following: basketball, baseball, beach volleyball (women), softball (women), football (men) (Oops), cross country, field hockey (women), bowling (women), golf, fencing (coeducational), lacrosse, soccer, gymnastics, rowing (women only), volleyball, ice hockey, water polo, rifle (coeducational), tennis, skiing (coeducational), track and field, swimming and diving, and wrestling (men) (Oops). The newest sport to be officially sanctioned is beach volleyball, (women) which held its first championship in the 2015–16 school year. And prior to the football thing, the only sport sanctioned by the NCAA in which men and women compete against one another directly is rifle shooting. And other sports are slowly coming into the women crossing over only.
Sound like women are getting the shaft? Women/girls are given the option of competing in sports against the men/boys in amateur sports any time they want. But the opposite is not happening. The NCAA won’t let it happen. And there is some doubt in my mind if National Federation or AAU will either. And organizations like FIFA are old school and it won’t happen there, also. The International Olympic committee hasn’t stepped in yet. But Caster Semenya, the African runner who identifies as a woman has been cut off by the IOC setting a standard of their thoughts on the issue.
And your pointing out the woman playing for the Globetrotters, Lynette Woodard, joined he team in 1985 about 30 years after the whole team became a publicity stunt.
So this bill is a fallacy and will do more harm than good as women, who got title X to even the score financially, are holding more championships now than the men in college. And while the men still aren’t allowed into the women’s competitions, to include sports they don’t have available to them, women are into the men’s.
wy69
Coach, I don’t disagree with you on the physical differences. But read the bill as it is set up and what it basically says is that men cannot compete with women. And as soon as a woman wishes to compete in a sport that men can play, the men have to withdraw.
The intent was to protect the competitiveness of women’s sports from men that identify as women like our friend in south Africa who the IOC has banned. But in their ineptness, they wrote it so it can destroy men’s sports. And I can see the NCAA going to court against this or pulling out of Mississippi altogether.
wy69
I am not focused on women getting the shaft. I’m seriously excited when I watch great performances by males a
Or females. The reward of victory, points, score, etc. drive greater striving. That whole avenue is closed off by making competition meaningless.
It doesn't extend to employment situations, either. But that doesn't stop anyone from deploying the U.S. political and legal systems to force it to be so.
Like the other Freeper said ... Let's go "all in" on this equality crusade.
Yes, she was a publicity stunt.
I'm not sure how relevant the rest of your post is. The NCAA is constrained by Title IX regulations that basically force schools to shut down men's athletic programs if there aren't enough women interesting in playing sports. Think about how absurd that is ... "We have to cancel our wrestling program because we have to have the same number of men and women in sports, and there aren't enough women playing softball at this school!"
This idiocy with men competing as women will actually SAVE a lot of those sports. Now, you will have NCAA schools reviving their wrestling programs by calling it "co-ed wrestling" -- with half the competitors men, and the other half men who call themselves women. PRESTO -- you've got a 50% participation rate for women in your wrestling program!
Part of it is qualifying for scholarships. You need to win a certain number of contests in order to qualify for a college athletic scholarship. This is hurting female sports in more ways than one.
“I am not focused on women getting the shaft.”
Like I said, read the bill. It has nothing to do with competition. It has to do with the political side of funding and the offer of women to control NCAA sports over men. It specifically states that men cannot compete against women. So if they are going to open up sports for women to decide to compete, but disallow men in women’s sports along with deny men competing in any sport a woman chooses to play in, then kiss sports goodbye. If the possibility at Ole Miss or Mississippi Valley State athletes are in danger of being shut out after they commit when a woman decides to play, a lot of athletes will be in other states and the colleges in Mississippi will dry up.
wy69
You are very true. Women have surrendered their place to men who want to dominate over them. How easily Women surrendered their rights to Left Wing men who see women as 2nd class citizens. And minorities are now demanding their own schools and universities. Minority only. Gays are demanding their special rights that often overrule rights of Women. Soon Women will be so far on the back of the bus that no one will even know they exist, except for the few in congress that continue to strip away the rights of the Women they represent.
How sad. All the efforts of womens rights destroyed by the Left
If there were any real male Fathers involved close to a sport or team that has Tranny boys playing with their daughters, would it be out of line to throw a blanket party for these things? You have to welcome them to the team.
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