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1 posted on 05/13/2021 11:10:27 AM PDT by george76
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Every ‘Artificial Intelligence’ eventually wants to takeover the world; the CIA is no different than ‘Hal’ in 2001..................


2 posted on 05/13/2021 11:15:18 AM PDT by Red Badger (Jesus said there is no marriage in Heaven. That's why they call it Heaven.....................)
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This article is historically ignorant.

We only have a CIA because of Truman.

Truman was farther to the right than FDR, but at the same time, he was more partisan. FDR asked Republican Bill Donovan to create the OSS - the wartime intelligence agency.

Truman didn't like that a Republican had founded it, so he dissolved it, and created the CIA. The OSS was a lot better. We have only Truman to blame for that.

3 posted on 05/13/2021 11:16:49 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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>>. In Truman’s era, spying and subterfuge were physical endeavors, involving skilled agents and analog technology. Today the covert arts don’t require James Bond, but instead a trained technician who can pull information from a server farm.

They are an advocacy group. Now more than ever and they no longer oppose Marxism or support American exceptionalism.


4 posted on 05/13/2021 11:19:32 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Lean on Joe Biden to follow Donald Trump's example and donate his annual salary to charity. L)
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You've got to pity Biden...

Spent all this time accumulating wealth, and now he doesn't know whether he's been fed warm mush or crab cakes.

5 posted on 05/13/2021 11:20:13 AM PDT by G Larry (Force the Universities to use their TAX FREE ENDOWMENTS to pay off Student loan debt!!!)
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Merle Miller: Mr. President, I know that you were responsible as President for setting up the CIA. How do you feel about it now? Truman: I think it was a mistake. And if I’d know what was going to happen, I never would have done it.


8 posted on 05/13/2021 11:27:10 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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Truman was a sincere guy trapped in do-gooder thinking.


9 posted on 05/13/2021 11:27:30 AM PDT by Jim W N (MAGA by restoring the Gospel of the Grace of Christ (Jude 3) and our Free Constitutional Republic!)
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Below is a shorter summary on the CIA and President Truman:

Truman Was Right About the CIA
Mises Institute ^ | 03/08/2017 | Jeff Deist
Posted on 5/13/2021, 11:10:27 AM by george76
Excerpted: But Truman apparently bought into the consolidation argument:

Truman: the President needed at that time a central organization that would bring all the various intelligence reports we were getting in those days, and there must have been a dozen of them, maybe more, bring them all into one organization so that the President would get one report on what was going on in various parts of the world. Now that made sense, and that’s why I went ahead and set up what they called the Central Intelligence Agency.

Unfortunately it was only in hindsight that Truman came to see the “Iron Law of Oligarchy” at work, which posits that all organizations— particularly government bureaucracies— eventually fall under the control of an elite few. That elite, he came to understand, did not include the president or his cabinet:

Truman: But it got out of hand. The fella ... the one that was in the White House after me never paid any attention to it, and it got out of hand. Why, they’ve got an organization over there in Virginia now that is practically the equal of the Pentagon in many ways. And I think I’ve told you, one Pentagon is one too many.

Now, as nearly as I can make out, those fellows in the CIA don’t just report on wars and the like, they go out and make their own, and there’s nobody to keep track of what they’re up to. They spend billions of dollars on stirring up trouble so they’ll have something to report on. They/ it’s become a government all of its own and all secret. They don’t have to account to anybody.

That’s a very dangerous thing in a democratic society, and it’s got to be put a stop to. The people have got a right to know what those birds are up to. And if I was back in the White House, people would know. You see, the way a free government works, there’s got to be a housecleaning every now and again, and I don’t care what branch of the government is involved. Somebody has to keep an eye on things.

And when you can’t do any housecleaning because everything that goes on is a damn secret, why, then we’re on our way to something the Founding Fathers didn’t have in mind. Secrecy and a free, democratic government don’t mix. And if what happened at the Bay of Pigs doesn’t prove that, I don’t know what does. You have got to keep an eye on the military at all times, and it doesn’t matter whether it’s the birds in the Pentagon or the birds in the CIA.

This is a remarkable statement by Truman, even if delivered during a relatively unguarded moment with a trusted biographer. It shows a humility and willingness to admit grave error that is lacking in public life today. It also stands on its own as a inadvertent libertarian argument against state power itself.

https://mises.org/wire/truman-was-right-about-cia


10 posted on 05/13/2021 11:34:04 AM PDT by Grampa Dave ( We are alive! In spite of being stupid and getting vaccinated twice!! On: 01/31/2021 & 2/21/2021!)
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Truman:

Now, as nearly as I can make out, those fellows in the CIA don’t just report on wars and the like, they go out and make their own, and there’s nobody to keep track of what they’re up to. They spend billions of dollars on stirring up trouble so they’ll have something to report on. They/ it’s become a government all of its own and all secret. They don’t have to account to anybody.


11 posted on 05/13/2021 11:37:04 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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“Give’em hell Harry” was no body’s fool!!


12 posted on 05/13/2021 11:38:21 AM PDT by SMARTY ( "Force always attracts men of low morality. " Albert Einstein)
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So the CIA is like the SS ... a State within a State

They own their own ships, their own planes, their own satellites, their own armouries, their own intelligence-gathering facilities with supercomputers, their own ground troops, even their own politicians ....

and they’re answerable to no one

American SS


14 posted on 05/13/2021 11:52:07 AM PDT by canuck_conservative
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BTTT


16 posted on 05/13/2021 11:57:10 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Free Republic: The Internet's 1st social media platform. Since 1996.)
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When the CIA turned their spy efforts away from the USSR and towards Americans it was the start of all problems.

Now ALL alphabet agencies (DOJ, IRS, FBI, NSA, ETC) focus on what?

Yep. Conservative White people.


17 posted on 05/13/2021 12:00:44 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (Actual FR Quote: “I ain’t getting no Covid Vaccine. I’d rather get Covid and DIE before I get a jab.)
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So was Schumer.

https://youtu.be/6OYyXv2l4-I


18 posted on 05/13/2021 12:18:37 PM PDT by hardspunned (former GOP globalist stooge)
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The CIA’s most important contribution to the Nation has been the hundreds of excellent books, TV shows, and movies about the CIA and its shenanigans...


19 posted on 05/13/2021 12:22:35 PM PDT by SuperLuminal (Where is another Sam Adams now that we desperately need him?)
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For a guy who was the product of a pretty significant political “machine” in MO, I always found his “simple country Everyman” act a little suspicious.

But, I thought he was an honorable guy and at least he was decisive.


20 posted on 05/13/2021 12:34:29 PM PDT by Vermont Lt (. )
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Truman won by voter fraud. It’s a democrat tradition.


22 posted on 05/13/2021 12:42:21 PM PDT by HIDEK6 (God bless Donald Trump. )
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So Truman killed JFK by accident....


23 posted on 05/13/2021 12:51:07 PM PDT by Manic_Episode ( “Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice. Moderation in pursuit of justice is no virtue.”)
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Say what you will about President Harry Truman

He was socialist swine that sounded like Al Gore on economics.

30 posted on 05/13/2021 5:00:04 PM PDT by Impy ("Burn them all!!" - King Aerys II Targaryen, I share the sentiment )
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I don’t think Ex-Presidents getting rich was a thing yet or I’m sure he would have cashed in. As the product of a corrupt KC political machine I’d doubt he’d have had a moral objection.


31 posted on 05/13/2021 5:01:49 PM PDT by Impy ("Burn them all!!" - King Aerys II Targaryen, I share the sentiment )
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IC Corruption - bump for later...


34 posted on 05/13/2021 6:50:19 PM PDT by indthkr
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