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USS Gerald R. Ford completes the 1st explosive event of Full Ship Shock Trial
WBKO Channel 13 ^ | 6/20/21 | CNN

Posted on 06/21/2021 10:00:08 AM PDT by MAGA2017

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To: ROCKLOBSTER
Maybe they should have saved the taxpayers $13 Billion and kept the America.
Hopefully it takes the RATs and other communists a lot longer than a month to sink the USA.

GHW Bush, SEC DEF Cheney, and congress decommed her at half life. This was about the time the massive RIF's and closures began as well. America was deployed three times in three years without needed yard time at that point. Upon return from her second such deployment she had a major boiler room explosion severe enough to require a cold iron tow to NNSY where she was patched up and sent on her last major deployment. Afterwards she was decommed with too many issues to even make her a reserve ship so they scuttled her to obtain data for FORD.

BTW I believe the all nuke carrier fleet is about the most stupid idea to ever come out of the Pentagon. We still need conventional for war time as they allow for quicker training and qualification of the Engineering crews.

61 posted on 06/21/2021 11:50:57 AM PDT by cva66snipe
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To: GreyHoundSailor
Thought they kept the keys next to the Sea Bat - same locker with the checkered paint.

Yeah I'd get sky hooks there.

62 posted on 06/21/2021 11:53:48 AM PDT by cva66snipe
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To: srmanuel
I could be wrong but I am pretty sure I read that somewhere.

You are right, that is the tradition.

There are classes of ships that are single ships though, USS John F Kennedy is an example.

63 posted on 06/21/2021 11:56:22 AM PDT by pfflier
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To: MAGA2017
The USN normally does this stress test on the first ship of a new class during its acceptance trials. Unusually though, the USN wanted to delay the stress test until the third carrier of this new class carrier. To its credit, Congress told the USN no way, do the stress test now.

IIRC, three follow on new generation carriers are already in early to advanced construction phases. These are replacing several Nimitz class carriers that will be retired. Some of the Nimitz carriers slated for retirement,(if the USN gets its way) will retire before the end of their service life. I think Congress is going to nix this USN plan.

64 posted on 06/21/2021 12:00:29 PM PDT by Hootowl99
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To: Leaning Right

“That seems odd to me. Because if the ship fails the test, it would be damaged, and need expensive repairs.”

Yeah, or maybe lost. This ship is the most expensive vessel ever built by the USN. Maybe they could have run a simulation on a retired ship. Surely they could have set up a test that didn’t put a ship of the line in danger of damage. This seems odd.


65 posted on 06/21/2021 12:16:34 PM PDT by D_Idaho ("For we wrestle not against flesh and blood...")
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To: Leaning Right

I was thinking the same thing. Kind of like putting on a bullet proof vest and having yourself shot to see what happens. What if the vest fails?


66 posted on 06/21/2021 12:28:04 PM PDT by slouper (LWRC SPR 5.5 6)
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To: pfflier
There are classes of ships that are single ships though, USS John F Kennedy is an example.

Although not a true class change the other one was likely Saratoga. Yeah I know she was Forestall class but one major difference in the propulsion plants.

Saratoga CVA 60 was the first 1200 PSI steam plant all before her were 600 PSI Boilers.

Kennedy was a class of her own as I think there may have been plans to make her the second Enterprise class. There is a rumor that CVA/CV 66 AMERICA was supposed to have been nuke but a Freeper with long family ties to Newport News Shipbuilders said no she was always CV. His reasoning and it makes sense is the ship is built around the propulsion plant and it is the first to be installed meaning it must be ordered early on as well as reactors.

I think several things happened. 66 & 67 at that time the Navy did not have sufficient trained junior and senior nuclear operators. This was in the early 1960's and Rickover didn't really want a nuclear fleet of carriers. BTW I saw blue prints of America lots of times and many had CVN striked through then CVA-66 written on them. These were auxiliary systems blue prints mainly for the Chill Water Loops and other piping I had to look at a lot of times trouble shooting. This was in the late 1970's.

As Rickover lost more influence over the carrier program and the Nuclear Propulsion Training Program increased along with the number of PQS qualified senior enlisted and officers needed they went to nuke for Nimitz.

67 posted on 06/21/2021 12:46:48 PM PDT by cva66snipe
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To: srmanuel

This is great, but have they fixed the weapons elevators yet? You can’t deploy if you can’t get ordinance to your aircraft. But keep in mind these is new and improved elevators that are supposed to work quicker and lift more goodies, except they don’t...

Other than submarines has the USN managed to design, launch and commission a warship class that actually works in the last twenty years?


68 posted on 06/21/2021 12:52:13 PM PDT by sarge83
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To: cva66snipe
If I ever need an answer on anything, I know I can find a freeper that's been there, done that.

Very interesting knowledge you shared. Thanks for the info. I knew there were changes within classes of ships but didn't know the political background that influenced the actual class changes.

69 posted on 06/21/2021 12:57:49 PM PDT by pfflier
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To: Psalm 73
"Because he was All-American Offensive Lineman for Michigan?"

At least he was on teams that beat Ohio State in two straight years, something the Wolverines have not done in the 21st century.

70 posted on 06/21/2021 1:04:08 PM PDT by buckalfa (I have forgotten more than I ever knew.)
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To: pfflier
A lot of the political is guessing. Rickover was still in charge of all nuclear propulsion when I was active duty 76-80. Rickover's thing was submarines and he was second to none on that. Like I said he wasn't enthused about a nuclear propulsion surface fleet.

One reason I posted earlier about we need some conventional CV's is the training requirements are much easier. A nuke Machinist Mate will be in school well over a year maybe 18 months counting Basic. A conventional CV will have a Snipe with a six month deployment of experience under their belt plus work ups before hand and will be on his way to junior NCO rank and standing a second or third skill level watch. In war time in battles that is highly critical when you face mass casualties and have to train replacements.

71 posted on 06/21/2021 1:08:53 PM PDT by cva66snipe
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To: roadcat

There is at least one model of Buick crossover being made in China and sold here in the U.S. I wouldn’t touch one.


72 posted on 06/21/2021 1:50:25 PM PDT by Tucker39 ("It is impossible so to rightly govern a nation without God and the Bible." George Washington )
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To: cva66snipe

It’s really a trade-off. During round-the-clock flight ops on a CVN we’d refuel every 3-4 days and take on 2 - 2.5 million gallons of JP-5. They can also refuel gas turbine escorts (CG and DDG). A non-nuke would have to hit the tanker more often due to fewer JP-5 tanks, and they’d have to take on DFM.

Refueling is a vulnerable time for any ship - on a steady course with 12 kt speed for hours.


73 posted on 06/21/2021 2:06:33 PM PDT by GreyHoundSailor
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To: MAGA2017

The Ford is a controversial boat. Super expensive. One big change is electromagnetic catapults instead of steam rams.


74 posted on 06/21/2021 2:12:15 PM PDT by lurk ( )
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To: GreyHoundSailor

How long to transfer the JP-5?


75 posted on 06/21/2021 2:22:02 PM PDT by cva66snipe
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To: cva66snipe

Three double probes at max pressure - about 1 million gal/hr.


76 posted on 06/21/2021 2:28:21 PM PDT by GreyHoundSailor
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To: Tucker39
There is at least one model of Buick crossover being made in China and sold here in the U.S. I wouldn’t touch one.

There's a couple of white guys blogging in China, doing truthful reports on YouTube. I'm surprised China hasn't shut them down. Although China has taken their passports to stop the from leaving.

These guys show the car dealerships in China showing Chinese cars that are identical in looks to well-known international brands - ripoff copies. The dealers also offer to swap out their name badge for the copied brand name, for instance Toyota or Land Rover, etc. Buyers complain that the rubber and trim decays within one year, mechanicals quickly break, suspension goes bad etc. Buicks are popular in China, but I wouldn't buy one. One of my sisters had one and it broke down within 2 years and she junked it.

77 posted on 06/21/2021 2:31:27 PM PDT by roadcat
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To: MAGA2017

Bkmk


78 posted on 06/21/2021 2:35:13 PM PDT by sauropod (The smartphone is the retina of the mind's eye.)
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To: GreyHoundSailor

Number 2 & 6 was our Grape pump rooms. Both would about take your head off from the fumes coming up the trunk. #2 sat right below our Chiller machinery room & #6 was in the aft port chow line and was worse. Sometime I think in May 89 long after I was out #2 had an explosion at least 2 were killed. It could have easily been 3 had my shops rover watch been in the equipment room above taking readings on the chiller..


79 posted on 06/21/2021 3:25:47 PM PDT by cva66snipe
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To: cva66snipe

Most people don’t know how dangerous life on a Navy ship can be. We had some A-7 maintainers who fired three HE rounds into a fully loaded KA-6 tanker. An MM3 had just gotten off watch at 0300 and went up to the flight deck to see the night sky before he hit the rack. He was standing next to the tanker when it exploded. All they found was the heel of one of his boots.


80 posted on 06/21/2021 3:45:29 PM PDT by GreyHoundSailor
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