Posted on 07/30/2021 4:41:47 AM PDT by Kaslin
Pat is spot on. Stop the China war talk.
Is this comedy? Seems like they won the “war” without firing a shot.
We should tactical nuke the Chinese wuhan bio weapons lab and tell China we don’t care if they like it or not. Then arrest and try Fauci for funding it.
Remember the domino theory.
That said, if we will not protect Taiwan, we need to start making our own microchips, like, yesterday.
Who is guilty of “China war talk?” I posted a map meme so folks can understand the population density aspect of China’s world view.
By what yardstick would we threaten war for the independence of Taiwan but continue to tolerate 60 years of totalitarian repression in Cuba, 90 miles away?
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Yardstick, Pat? Oh so quaint.
If you are arguing on moral grounds, then it is a holier-than-thou game, which is a loser and not worth the energy to play. Plus, its not the US making the threats, its the CCP. Labeling the US response a ‘threat’ is to obfuscate the point and change the subject - something you are good at Pat.
However, if Cuba were sunk in its entirety over night, it would be no loss to the US. Taiwan is a different matter.
Taiwan is the primary sources for the world’s most advanced computer chips in quantity - in case you missed it, there is currently a shortage due to demand: can you imagine what that shortage would look like should the CCP be in charge?
Taiwan controls the shipping lanes in the South China Sea, through which the bulk of the world’s shipping passes. Do you want to hand that over to the CCP also? Do you like looking at empty store shelves? One would think you would have tired of that sight during the early part of the CCP virus, but I guess not.
What’s an island or two between friends, right? Let them have Taiwan and they’ll want Japan; let them have those and they’ll want Australia - unless they take it before Japan. So what island would be next on their list which would not be worth going to war over? Hawaii? Then there’s California, which is a long way from DC, so would that be worth fighting for or not?
Just where do you draw the line, Pat?
In repeated war games, we cannot defend Taiwan. All of Taiwan and surrounding areas are well within range of 100s if not thousands of ChiCom land-based hypersonic ship killing missiles.
OTOH, it will not be a cakewalk to invade Taiwan, since it is 20 times larger than Okinawa, with a much greater population, and 10K’ mountains.
My prediction: China will not overtly invade Taiwan, but will gradually put the screws to it with a sea blockade, daring the USN to defy it, putting our warships in ChiCom missile range.
Remember, in war games, the USN gets sunk by those missiles. Our CVNs can’t even get close enough to Taiwan to launch aircraft before they’d be hit with salvos of missiles.
Need a graphic that includes the US labeled EMPTY
Taiwan’s obituary was written on 11/4.....
We draw the line at military reality. The USN will be sunk before it gets close enough to defend Taiwan. This is what repeated wargames show.
This is not Okinawa 1945, where we could anchor vast fleets just offshore, while fending off kamikazes.
See above. I predict the CCP will gradually enforce a blockade. Invading Okinawa, 20X as big as Okinawa, would not be a cakewalk.
China is the war mongering idiot in this argument. If anyone thinks Taiwan and Japan don’t have nukes, they are kidding themselves.
China would cease to be a country if one of our subs decided to destroy a structure so massive that it moved the tilt of the earth.
Typo above, invading TAIWAN
WW3 next year.
That’s too easy: 10%. (for the big-guy)
What good is an undeclared nuclear deterrent?
It could only lead to a massive miscalculation.
If anybody nukes the ChiCom dams, China will nuke the USA in response.
Sorry, I didn’t mean you. I was making a general comment.
With what? They don’t have nuclear subs. Our missile defense can shoot down their ICBMs.
Don’t believe the hype. If the 3 gorges dam gets nuked, there will be no command and control in place to launch a counter strike.
Not having us publicize our nuclear capability worked well on Japan.
The truth is none of us, including Pat, know how things will play out. I’m just posturing my opinion. I may be horribly wrong or I may be horribly right.
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