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Mexico's Dishonest Lawsuit Against American Gun Makers
Townhall ^ | August 10, 2021 | John R Lott Jr

Posted on 08/10/2021 10:41:28 PM PDT by richardb72

President Biden keeps telling Americans that gunmakers are “exempt from being sued. … This is the only outfit that is exempt from being sued.” Apparently, someone forgot to tell the Mexican government about that.

Last week, the Mexican government sued several U.S.- gun makers, seeking $10 billion in damages. They claim that the companies are “conscious of the fact that their products are trafficked and used in illicit activities against the civilian population and authorities of Mexico.” Among those facing the lawsuit are well-known names: Smith & Wesson Brands, Barrett Firearms Manufacturing, Beretta USA, Glock, and Colt. The case was filed by the Brady Campaign, a U.S. based gun control organization.

The lawsuit by Mexico is just the latest in a long string of such suits. Remington was forced into bankruptcy last year because of a lawsuit claiming that company marketing inspired Adam Lanza to commit the massacre. In July, a California judge allowed a lawsuit against Smith & Wesson to go forward because the company had marketed the gun used in a shooting through “video game-like commercials.” On Thursday, Biden met with state Democrat Attorneys General to discuss additional ways to bring lawsuits against gun makers.

Despite Biden’s claims to the contrary, gun makers have never been exempted from lawsuits. If gun makers make defective guns, you can sue them. Likewise, if they break the law (e.g., sell a firearm without a background check), you can sue them....

Mexico does have a serious crime problem. Its murder rate was six times the U.S. rate in 2019, but that doesn’t make the lawsuit any less frivolous. Mexican officials blame America for its relatively strong gun rights, but the problem stems from Mexico’s lucrative illegal drug trade. If cartels didn't get their guns from the U.S., they would just get them...

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: banglist; biden; bradycampaign; cprc; democrats; guncontrol; johnlott; mediabias; mexico
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1 posted on 08/10/2021 10:41:28 PM PDT by richardb72
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“conscious of the fact that their products are trafficked and used in illicit activities against the civilian population and authorities of Mexico.”

What about car manufacturers?
And Obama/Rahm fast and furious?


2 posted on 08/10/2021 10:44:47 PM PDT by Darksheare (Those who support liberal "Republicans" summarily support every action by same. )
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To: richardb72

Interestingly, Mexico decided not to sue the supplier of their own military arms - Sig.


3 posted on 08/10/2021 10:54:53 PM PDT by Yo-Yo (is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: richardb72

Countersue the Mexican Government for drug related deaths.


4 posted on 08/10/2021 10:57:14 PM PDT by reg45 (Barack 0bama: Gone but not forgiven.)
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To: reg45

Sue Mexico for all the costs their illegal immigrants cause.


5 posted on 08/10/2021 11:02:10 PM PDT by Nateman (If the Left is not screaming , you are doing it wrong.)
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To: richardb72

I think Biden was thinking of vaccine makers. They are immune from lawsuits.


6 posted on 08/10/2021 11:07:07 PM PDT by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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"Sue Mexico for all the costs their illegal immigrants cause."

I would rather see a declaration of war on Mexico.

7 posted on 08/10/2021 11:13:12 PM PDT by Enterprise
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To: richardb72

Texas doesn’t have standing but Mexico does?


8 posted on 08/10/2021 11:24:15 PM PDT by Luke21
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To: richardb72

Sue Mexico’s ass for the cartels.


9 posted on 08/10/2021 11:27:13 PM PDT by Paladin2 (Critical Marx Theory is The SOLUTION....)
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To: richardb72
What or which Mexican government?

Mexican government admits 80% of its populated territory is run by cartels, including key border areas

Daniel Horowitz, June 03, 2019

10 posted on 08/11/2021 12:01:30 AM PDT by Widget Jr
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To: richardb72

President Biden keeps telling Americans that gunmakers are “exempt from being sued. … This is the only outfit that is exempt from being sued.”


Biden knows (well, at some point he knew - what he now knows is probably very limited) that this is utter BS.

NO company should be able to be held liable for the legal production and sale of a highly regulated, non-defective, product after said product has left the possession and control of that company, particularly when any harm that might result from the use of that product involves either negligence or criminal actions by the user. The perfect example of this is that an auto manufacturer can’t be held liable when it makes an automobile properly and some driver (who didn’t even buy it from the manufacturer, but from a dealer/wholesaler) gets drunk and kills/injures some innocent person. The very idea of the manufacturer being held liable in such circumstances is abhorrent to the concept of justice and reasonable accountability.

So why does the firearms industry have the added protection that no other industry has, and which Biden so hypocritically condemns? Simple: because numerous anti-gun organizations and governments have, over the course of many years, decided to sue firearms manufacturers for deaths or injuries that EVERYONE knows are no fault of the companies. The goal of suing the companies was never to actually win the case (and certainly after appeal to a sane supervising appeals court) - any decent first year law student could tell you that, let alone an experienced litigator. No, the initial goal was to cost the firearms manufacturers lots of money in legal fees, thus driving up the cost of firearms, resulting in fewer sales. The longer term goal was to bankrupt one company, then another, and so on - until none of them remained in the business of selling firearms for civilian purchases. So, in 2005, the Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act was passed by Congress and signed into law by Bush the Younger.

What Biden - an anti-gun fanatic from his first day in Congress - dislikes is that the PLCAA protects firearms manufacturers from the lawfare that was being used against them by other anti-gun fanatics. It prevents the “death from a thousand cuts” that Clinton HUD Secretary Andrew Cuomo threatened would be unleashed against the firearms manufacturers...and it is SOOOO incredibly delicious to see Cuomo hoisted on his own petard, the lecherous, arrogant, prick!


11 posted on 08/11/2021 12:44:54 AM PDT by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt, “The Weapon Shops of Isher”)
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The suit should be tossed. The Mexican government lacks standing.

Also the lawful commerce act prevents lawsuits against companies for the intentional misuse of their products by 3rd parties.

Also over a century of tort law bars recovery due to lack of proximate cause for any company after the intentional misuse of their products by 3rd parties.

If we were to throw all this out.....should anybody be able to sue GM when a drunk driver in a Buick mows down a pedestrian?

How about the makers of plant fertilizer for the bomb Timothy McVeigh made from their product?

Is Boeing on the hook for the 9/11 terrorists using their planes like guided missiles?

It goes on and on. You’d have to shut down every company in America. None of them could get liability insurance if this is allowed.


12 posted on 08/11/2021 3:18:45 AM PDT by FLT-bird
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To: PROCON
Enemy action PING.
13 posted on 08/11/2021 3:29:53 AM PDT by Joe Brower ("Might we not live in a nobler dream than this?" -- John Ruskin)
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To: All

Who they really ought to be suing is Eric Holder, 0bama and the 0bama ATF who intentionally trafficked guns to Mexico to be used to kill Mexican law enforcement, American Border Patrol and assorted civilians on both sides of the border.


14 posted on 08/11/2021 4:28:10 AM PDT by LegendHasIt
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Mexico dishonest!? El No Wayo!


15 posted on 08/11/2021 4:42:53 AM PDT by SgtHooper (If you remember the 60's, YOU WEREN'T THERE!)
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To: FLT-bird

Correct.


16 posted on 08/11/2021 4:55:44 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Baseball players, gangsters and musicians are remembered. But journalists are forgotten.)
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To: richardb72; mylife; Joe Brower; MaxMax; Randy Larsen; waterhill; Envisioning; AZ .44 MAG; umgud; ...

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17 posted on 08/11/2021 5:54:13 AM PDT by PROCON (Our rights do not come from government, therefore they cannot take them away.)
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To: richardb72

Nobody is responsible for the misuse of their products.

Go after those who are misusing them.

Mexico needs to fix its own problems first and they just might find gun violence decreasing instead of being partner to trying to rob us of our Constitutional Second Amendment rights.


18 posted on 08/11/2021 6:09:17 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith…. )
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To: Widget Jr; richardb72
Widget Jr :" What or which Mexican government?

"Mexican government admits 80% of its populated territory is run by cartels, including key border areas "
Daniel Horowitz, June 03, 2019 "

Mexico is similar to Afghanistan : Once you go outside metropolitan areas, the cartels run the local government.
Remember when the government police arrested and had in custody the son of a cartel leader,
and then had to free and release the 'perp's son because the government police were out gunned and lacked adequate firepower to extract their officers ?
Despite international posturing, Mexico remains a third- world wannabe, thanks to most of the country being under the influence of the drug cartels.

19 posted on 08/11/2021 6:18:07 AM PDT by Tilted Irish Kilt
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To: richardb72

They should be demanding the extradition of one Eric Holder.

L


20 posted on 08/11/2021 6:20:32 AM PDT by Lurker (Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is. )
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