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Second U.S. judge questions constitutionality of lead felony charge against Oath Keepers in Capitol riot
WaPo ^ | 08 September 2021 | Spencer S. Hsu

Posted on 09/08/2021 11:53:20 PM PDT by blueplum

A second federal judge in Washington questioned whether the lead felony charge leveled by the government against Capitol riot defendants is unconstitutionally vague, as 18 Oath Keepers accused in a conspiracy case urged the court on Wednesday to toss out a count carrying one of the heaviest penalties against them.

U.S. District Judge Amit P. Mehta asked how federal prosecutors distinguish felony conduct qualifying as “obstructing an official proceeding” of Congress — punishable by up to 20 years in prison — from misdemeanor offenses the government has charged others with, such as shouting to interrupt a congressional hearing.

“Essentially, what you said is, ‘Trust us,’ ” Mehta said. “. . . And that is a real problem....

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: District of Columbia
KEYWORDS: abuseofpower; amitmehta; amitpmehta; capitol; dcdistrict; dissent; districtcourt; districtofcolumbia; federalcourts; jan6; jan6th; oathkeepers; obamajudge; politicalprisoners; voicevote
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1 posted on 09/08/2021 11:53:20 PM PDT by blueplum
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The “siege” was staged. All of it.


2 posted on 09/09/2021 12:29:46 AM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: blueplum

Everyone sane already knows that facial recognition software of video from that day has proven known ANTIFA and BLM disguised as MAGA led the way. Democrats think we are stupid and attempt to speak to us as if we were children. I saw an article on them making a ludicrous suggestion, “Biden admin responds to skyrocketing grocery prices with absurd claim”, and you can give that a look at Right Scoop. The Lincoln joke I’d heard before. About time a judge stood up to this nonsense. More please!


3 posted on 09/09/2021 12:54:59 AM PDT by ProfessorGoldiloxx
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To: Gene Eric

John’s brother James Sullivan turned him in to the FBI and told them BLM John said 226 ANTIFA disguised as MAGA led the way into the Capital January 6.


4 posted on 09/09/2021 12:56:58 AM PDT by ProfessorGoldiloxx
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To: ProfessorGoldiloxx

John and James are adopted and their dad sold nuclear secrets. Perhaps John is the sane one in the family.


5 posted on 09/09/2021 1:08:32 AM PDT by ProfessorGoldiloxx
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To: ProfessorGoldiloxx

Which never made the news.

Belated welcome to FR.


6 posted on 09/09/2021 1:19:10 AM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: ProfessorGoldiloxx

>> that facial recognition software of video from that day

My fav is the heavily armed cross-eyed “riot cop”...

well, it’s a toss-up between him and Ashli who knowingly jumped into the gunman’s line of fire.


7 posted on 09/09/2021 1:21:49 AM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: ProfessorGoldiloxx

Everyone sane already knows that facial recognition software of video from that day has proven known ANTIFA and BLM disguised as MAGA led the way.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

GHet that ionto evidence and their who world will blow up.ohn Sullivan , ANTIFA who was with Ashli Babbit when she was shot, was one of the worest. He was arraigned and released on bail, charged with a misdemeanor and walked. He was a central figure in the staging. Then there was the Prouds Boys leader who was in fact an FBI informant/operative, who was pulled off the streets the day before on the 5th, after attempting to induce and insurrection, which failed. The FBI staging unit had a lot bigger plans that failed, and all we had is a slight Whizmo from a small miniority of partying Republicans who were let in by the Washington Police on the Senate Side.They were INVITED in.

Damn right it was planned. Alinsky RULES!


8 posted on 09/09/2021 1:27:31 AM PDT by Candor7 ((Obama Fascism:http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html) )
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To: Gene Eric

I have been asserting the same for quite some time now.


9 posted on 09/09/2021 1:31:14 AM PDT by cranked
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To: Candor7

>> ANTIFA who was with Ashli Babbit when she was shot

Maybe with a blank round?

She and others taunt the gunman. Waits for the gunman to get into position. Then she’s assisted into the gunman’s line of fire.

Her pro-Trump video rant is/was perfect. Her pic wearing the MAGA hat is/was perfect.

Few things make sense if she were genuine.

Everything makes sense if she was part of the crew.


10 posted on 09/09/2021 1:41:27 AM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: cranked

The lack of curiosity is bewildering.


11 posted on 09/09/2021 1:43:55 AM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Gene Eric

Everything makes sense if she was part of the crew.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

She died. It was murder.


12 posted on 09/09/2021 1:46:18 AM PDT by Candor7 ((Obama Fascism:http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html) )
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To: Gene Eric

The seige was 99% ANTIFA. The coverup was by the McConnell and Pelosi who knew in advance and did nothing to stop it, the news media, and the police. Never let a crisis go to waste and all applies.


13 posted on 09/09/2021 1:53:21 AM PDT by Widget Jr
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>> She died...

She was allegedly cremated within 48 hours.


14 posted on 09/09/2021 1:57:20 AM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Gene Eric

I was looking for the .../s

Since it is not there, I have a question:

ARE YOU NUTS?


15 posted on 09/09/2021 2:00:45 AM PDT by Maris Crane
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To: blueplum

Bought time !


16 posted on 09/09/2021 2:07:18 AM PDT by Pikachu_Dad ("the media are selling you a line of soap)
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To: Maris Crane

Give me any detail about the videos taken at the scene.

Here’s as easy one. The window frame that Ashli entered — how was it cleared?

Another easy one. How many signals precipitated Ashli’s entrance to the frame?

Less obvious. When the gunman’s muzzle flashed, what was the angle of the barrel?

More complex. What was the distance between the gun and Ashli?

Would you really expect a trained AF Vet to knowingly jump into a gunman’s line of fire?

A question for you: What’s the basis of your conviction?


17 posted on 09/09/2021 2:10:57 AM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Gene Eric

“She was allegedly cremated within 48 hours.”

Implies some things; proves none.

And this is my biggest problem with so many arguments from the right: there are layers upon layers of facts that INSINUATE this, and INSINUATE that, and — OMG! — INSINUATE this other over here; as if all that’s necessary to PROVE something is to stack up enough INSINUATION.

Just — no.

It’s NOT the case. It NEVER will be.

The rules of EVIDENCE admit to a preponderance of circumstantial facts, but those facts aren’t mere insinuations; they’re a LINKED SET of ESTABLISHED TRUTHS that point to an inescapable conclusion.

There’s people can’t even agree that Ashli’s dead; how can they agree she’s been cremated? Fahrenheit 451?

Yeah. Insinuation, again. I know.

But, go on and insinuate your brains out.
Have AT it, if it makes ya happy. Far be it from me...
Crack a cold one, spark up a doob.. insinuate away.
Late night radio awaits your call.

Just understand: IT PROVES NOTHING.


18 posted on 09/09/2021 2:15:40 AM PDT by HKMk23 (LORD, HASTE THE DAY...!)
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To: Gene Eric

wait.......whuuut????


19 posted on 09/09/2021 2:17:53 AM PDT by blueplum ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017) )
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To: Gene Eric

you’ve got to tie up a lot of loose ends to make that story fly and anything with that many knots is way too weak to hold any weight


20 posted on 09/09/2021 2:21:16 AM PDT by blueplum ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017) )
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