Posted on 09/12/2021 8:33:46 PM PDT by RomanSoldier19
Gasoline cars are less efficient and have lower range in winter too.
The difference is gasoline cars have waste heat that does nothing for most of the year but is shifted into the cabin in Winter.
Electric cars are more efficient and have very little waste heat. They need to generate heating for the cabin from the battery. The best way is through a heat pump. Here you can also scavenge the little waste heat there is available.
Typical gas car is 12% less efficient in Winter. A well designed electric car with heat pump is 20% less efficient. A poorly designed electric car without heat pump is 50% less efficient in Winter.
It also takes quite a bit of electricity to refine oil into gasoline/diesel.
Lithium iron phosphate batteries do not have their lifespans shortened by fast charging. These are just coming into production for US cars.
Most people don’t fast charge every week. Most people charge at home. The typical EV being built today will have a battery pack that outlast a gas car’s automatic transmission. And probably the engine. With less maintenance too.
GM is recalling ~142k Chevrolet Bolts to replace battery packs for possible fire hazard. GM typically has a recall for possible fire hazard every 4 years for one of their gasoline cars. They difference is they don’t get the same widespread media coverage. .006% of Chevy Bolts have caught fire. Every year .007% of the US gasoline car fleet catches fire.
I have witnessed friends turn off air conditioning in their Cadillacs to save fuel as they are not sure they will make it to the next gas station.
In my Tesla I can fuel overnight as my car is plugged in the garage. You can’t do that with a gas car. And I refuel at 20% of the cost per mile of a typical 25 MPG gas car.
About two years ago, the city of Trier, Germany got their first E-Bus...arriving around January.
So they charged the first bus up, and assigned the route. First day out...it made it through about one-third of the assigned ‘time/route’ when the driver called and said he needed to recharge (immediately). Course, you are talking about three hours of time.
Temperature for the day? Around freezing (32 degrees). By the time you count up heat usage within the vehicle, and decreased battery power...it was never going to be able to operate at advertised levels. Company engineers arrived shortly after that and began researching a ‘fix’. No one has said much since that day.
Maybe in nice weather, it made sense...but with serious winter weather...the odds of success are marginal.
In general, recommendations are that lithium ion batteries should be only charged to 80% of capacity on a regular basis for longest life.
https://batteryuniversity.com/
So, in a practical sense, the advertised EV ranges should be multiplied by 0.8, so your 300 mile EV is actually 240 miles, if you want your battery to last as long as possible.
Honestly we went a year with little driving as a world and it didn’t budge the carbon numbers. These climate change types are doing this for money. That’s the bottom line.
My electric bill for august (due September 29) was 127 dollars in central Florida. I keep my air conditioning at 80. I’m always comfortable with that temperature. I think that’s a lot of money for a 2,000 square foot home. Now in the future I’ll have to plug in a car. How much will my electricity bill go up?
Living in hurricane country... where people can lose power for up to weeks at a time...
No problem. If you have an EV, you can store 5-gallon cans of electrons in your garage, just as you do with gasoline.
Some have come up with the idea of capturing the lost heat from tailpipes and using that heat to run an electric generator to power batteries on a hybrid car. Perhaps a bank of stirling engines could reclaim the lost energy.
Using a diesel engine running on straight veggie oils would solve the “fossil fuel” fractionation issue.
Why is stellantis considered a big three? Based in Holland.
Chrysler is long gone. The unions are what immensely helped to destroy American car and other industries global competitiveness.
Norway EV Key Stats Because gasoline cars had import taxes levied on them, and also 25% VAT (whilst electric cars do not), the cost of buying cars in Norway are opposite to many countries:
In other words, due to Government policies within Norway, buying an electric car works out much cheaper than a petrol car – especially when compared to countries without great electric-vehicle subsidies (like the UK, which recently cut their EV subsidy by one-third).
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93.4% of electricity in Norway is hydroelectric, so EVs make sense there.
We need to start building nuke plants and rebuilding/upgrading the decrepit grid in the US if they are really serious about going electric.
I don’t see that happening anytime soon.
Agree.
Yes, hydro electric from streams is cheap energy. But it still takes subsidies to make electric cards work.
LOL
The Dims cannot admit the truth - there is no economic advantage to buy an EV without ripping off the taxpayers with subsidies for them, which is nothing other than a gift to EV makers.
I thought socialism meant free everything- I know most of the the twits who voted for Biden believe this.
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