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To: flaglady47
The thing is its not being exaggerated, and that is what you don’t want to see

Sorry, but you do not know what you are talking about and this just proves it.

I can list the exaggerations that I've seen on Freerepublic over the last couple of weeks.

CHILDREN ARE BEING ROUNDED UP AND FORCIBLY VACCINATED - lie.

POLICE ARE CHASING PEOPLE DOWN AND FORCIBLY VACCINATING THEM - lie.

MARTIAL LAW HAS BEEN DECLARED IN AUSTRALIA - lie.

CONCENTRATION CAMPS HAVE BEEN BUILT IN AUSTRALIA - lie.

PROTESTER SHOT DEAD BY POLICE AT MELBOURNE PROTEST - lie.

POLICE ARE GOING DOOR TO DOOR AND ASKING PEOPLE IF THEY PLAN TO PROTEST - lie.

All these statements are blatantly untrue.

And those are just the blatant lies. There's plenty of other cases, where people aren't actually lying, but important context is being omitted - sometimes deliberately, sometimes the person just doesn't know about the context - and that puts an inaccurate spin on the information.

One of those pieces of context is that the Prime Minister is very limited in what he can do in these situations. Some of you seem to think that Australia's Prime Minister is some sort of all powerful "HIS WORD IS LAW" leader and that he can magically overrule any decisions he doesn't like. He can't. Most specifically he has absolutely no power to overrule the states on any issue relating to public health.

He has some limited ability to try and negotiate better outcomes. He is using that and has been doing so throughout this pandemic. Things would be even worse if he hadn't been.

What you’ve got going over there in your country is Fascism, pure and simple, and that is never good.

No, it's not. It's authoritarianism in my state, but it isn't fascism. There is a distinction and those distinctions matter. And the authoritarianism is bad enough - it doesn't need to be made out to be worse. People like you exaggerating things, just wind up playing down how serious the problems really are. They don't need to be fascism to be serious.

It seems to me that you take it as some sort of personal affront to your country that needs to have comments about the horrors that are taking place in large swathes of Australia, watered down, softened in harshness, as if it is an attack on Australia’s honor, or its people.

I do take offence when people LIE about my country. When they tell the truth, I don't have a problem no matter how bad that truth is.

And you can’t convince me that your top dog over there can’t do anything about it.

That's because you have absolutely no understanding of how Australia's constitution works and no apparent ability to learn.

No, you think you're some sort of expert on how the constitution of another country on the other side of the world works.

The Australian states were virtually sovereign nations before they unified into a single country. They deliberately wrote the constitution so they would remain sovereign in the areas they chose to. The Prime Minister CANNOT overrule them in public health matters. It is legally and constitutionally impossible for him to do so. This is simple fact and it won't stop being simple fact because some ill informed person in America doesn't think it should be that way.

I'm sorry you have a President you don't like, and who a lot of you seem to think was elected by fraud (I don't know if you share that opinion but a lot of Americans seem to).

I'm glad I live in a country where there isn't any real doubt as to who was elected and where we have a national leader who respects and follows our constitution even when it's inconvenient.

57 posted on 09/29/2021 4:45:23 PM PDT by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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To: naturalman1975

Ping for a reminder for later. Not American not a conservative not free or not in a republic and damn proud to be neither.


58 posted on 09/29/2021 4:49:24 PM PDT by wgmalabama (We will find out if the Vac or virus risk was the correct choice - can we put truth above narrative)
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To: naturalman1975

“They deliberately wrote the constitution so they would remain sovereign in the areas they chose to. The Prime Minister CANNOT overrule them in public health matters. It is legally and constitutionally impossible for him to do so. This is simple fact and it won’t stop being simple fact because some ill informed person in America doesn’t think it should be that way.”

Our Constitution is written the same way with all powers not designated to the Feds belong to the States. It’s amazing how our Prez using a variety of means, mostly Exec Orders, gets around those State powers. I’m sure your guy could come up with ways to get something accomplished here. I can’t remember which news program was discussing this but they were saying there were ways (declaring a nat’l emergency?) to get around the states.

There are always rumors and exaggerations, but for the most part the authoritarian dictatorial actions (that are very fascist-like, depending on your definition of fascist) are there for all to see. Your country, whether you like it or not, is in deep doo doo.


70 posted on 09/29/2021 6:06:04 PM PDT by flaglady47 (Donald J.Trump, President in 2024 - DeSantis for VP (or Senior AIvisor))
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To: naturalman1975

“I’m glad I live in a country where there isn’t any real doubt as to who was elected and where we have a national leader who respects and follows our constitution even when it’s inconvenient.”

We have a corrupt regime (a Fascist/Marxist regime) governing illegally that is in the process of ruining our country. You have corrupt (plural) leaders of your States that are in the process of ruining them by fascist actions, whether you want to admit they are fascist or not. We have one top dog to get rid of, you have plural top dogs in your States that you must get rid of.

Fascism (Merriam Webster): a centralized autocratic government (your States) headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition.


71 posted on 09/29/2021 6:17:00 PM PDT by flaglady47 (Donald J.Trump, President in 2024 - DeSantis for VP (or Senior AIvisor))
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