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America thinks the unthinkable: More than half of Trump voters and 41% of Biden supporters want red and blue states to SECEDE from one another and form two new countries, shock new poll finds
UK Daily Mail ^ | October 1 2021 | MORGAN PHILLIPS

Posted on 10/02/2021 2:19:06 AM PDT by knighthawk

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To: knighthawk
"Over 40% of voters in both parties favor abolishing the checks and balances built into federal government and giving the president greater control

This, of course, is stupid and I don't believe any of it...

That very thing is at the base of most of our problems right now... "Trump and Biden voters agreed that democracy was preferable to any other governing system, at least 80% of them did."

And again, another blasted lie.!! This is a, supposedly, a Constitutional Republic. NOT a democracy.!!

If you want lies and bull crap I guess you can always go to a poll from a place like the University of Virginia's Center for Politics...

61 posted on 10/02/2021 5:50:24 AM PDT by unread (Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities - Voltaire)
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To: Reeses

Offset the city states with the consolidation of all of the small liberal states in the northeast, and make Hawaii a possession again. It’s too far away to be a state.


62 posted on 10/02/2021 5:54:24 AM PDT by Bernard (The very best scientific articles always contain this phrase: “My personal intuition has been…”)
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To: knighthawk
"Over 40% of voters in both parties favor abolishing the checks and balances built into federal government and giving the president greater control

This, of course, is stupid and I don't believe any of it... That very thing is at the base of most of our problems right now...

"Trump and Biden voters agreed that democracy was preferable to any other governing system, at least 80% of them did."

And again, another blasted lie.!! This is a, supposedly, a Constitutional Republic. NOT a democracy.!!

If you want lies and bull crap I guess you can always go to a poll from a place like the University of Virginia's Center for Politics...

63 posted on 10/02/2021 5:55:29 AM PDT by unread (Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities - Voltaire)
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To: knighthawk

Except that the political divide is not really a ‘states’ issue.

It is more a rural v metro issue and that would make secession by either nearly impossible.

Neither ‘nation’ would not survive having two dozen city-states spattered across the continent.


64 posted on 10/02/2021 6:02:19 AM PDT by TomGuy (!)
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To: Cen-Tejas
"the Tenth Amendment:" "The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

Yeppers, you put your finger right on the heart of the problem.. States Rights. Some strong Governors (plural) need to step up and demand that the FED get the heck out of things they have no business doing..

65 posted on 10/02/2021 6:12:03 AM PDT by unread (Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities - Voltaire)
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To: knighthawk

I have said repeatedly recently to my spouse that Abraham Lincoln made a huge mistake.


66 posted on 10/02/2021 6:17:49 AM PDT by Hattie
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To: knighthawk

BS. We just want to kick out anti-Americans from all US states.


67 posted on 10/02/2021 6:19:25 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists...Socialists...Fascists & AntiFa...Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: enumerated

That’s what happened after the war ended.


68 posted on 10/02/2021 6:27:53 AM PDT by TwelveOfTwenty (Will whoever keeps asking if this country can get any more insane please stop?)
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To: FLT-bird
I knew we could count on you to come along and be unable to discuss the point like an adult.

I knew we could count on you coming along and invoking your favorite boogieman, Abraham Lincoln.

As well as toss out a few of your odd-ball ideas.

There is no reason to think 3 countries all of which were products of Britain, could not have gotten along just fine, traded with each other and prospered. The US and Canada have done so for over 200 years.

The U.S. and Canada didn't fight a protracted and bloody rebellion before separating. And as far as I know there are no Canadian equivalent of Lost Causers keeping acrimony alive. Had the South won their rebellion there is no reason to believe there wouldn't have been additional conflicts between the two. Hard feelings would have continue for God knows how long. Perhaps till today.

69 posted on 10/02/2021 6:33:14 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: knighthawk

Not until individual states refuse federal funding will this be possible.
states could work together regionally to bolster their strength.
Like southern states could combine forces and Midwest states could do the same.


70 posted on 10/02/2021 6:36:27 AM PDT by Leep (Save America. Lock down Joe Biden)
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To: Reeses

But they don’t get to expand the city limits for any reason. Period.


71 posted on 10/02/2021 6:51:04 AM PDT by curious7
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To: mewzilla

Exactly!


72 posted on 10/02/2021 6:52:23 AM PDT by curious7
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To: ArcadeQuarters

America is controlled by the City States that in turn exert control over the former states in which they reside. In today’s America, states rights no longer have the effect they once might have had


73 posted on 10/02/2021 6:55:40 AM PDT by bert ( (KE. NP. N.C. +12) Like BLM, Joe Biden is a Domestic Enemy )
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To: knighthawk
Unthinkable? No.

The President getting people to fall of jets mid flight, the President mandating racism taught in the federal government, travesties have a field day at the expense of society, enabling an invasion at the southern boarder and persecution of our border agents...

It's survival, Democrats are failed people.

74 posted on 10/02/2021 6:57:46 AM PDT by Vision (Elections are one day. Reject "Chicago" vote harvesting. Election Reform Now. Obama is an evildoer.)
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To: knighthawk

DJTrump was elected in response to the absolute garbage spewed out by Obama — his hatred for America, his disdain for police, his his racism, etc.

BeijingBiden is a stronger version of that same crappola, only this time directly funded by the CCP.


75 posted on 10/02/2021 7:00:24 AM PDT by bobbo666 (Baizuo, wokies)
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To: TwelveOfTwenty

“That’s what happened after the war ended.”

Slavery in the Southern states would have ended without that War.

How soon? Sadly, we will never know.


76 posted on 10/02/2021 7:01:20 AM PDT by enumerated
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To: knighthawk

If anything like this were to happen, the first thing that must be done is most of the news media and Hollywood needs to be ghosted.


77 posted on 10/02/2021 7:12:43 AM PDT by 2CAVTrooper (One Nation, Under Fraud Completely Visible, With Spying and Lying Too All.)
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To: enumerated

Great, after the blue states collapse we can make them colonies


78 posted on 10/02/2021 7:14:55 AM PDT by Rodm
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To: knighthawk

I don’t want secession. I want the communist trash taken out of my country. Giving them half would be a victory for them.


79 posted on 10/02/2021 7:30:32 AM PDT by Hazwaste (Socialists are like slinkies. Only good for pushing down stairs.)
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To: Trumplican

You just have to make them *want* to leave.


80 posted on 10/02/2021 7:32:52 AM PDT by PLMerite ("They say that we were Cold Warriors. Yes, and a bloody good show, too." - Robert Conquest )
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