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Judge opens path for jury to clear Kyle Rittenhouse on firearm possession charge
Milwaukee Journal Sentinel ^ | 11/13/2021 | Bruce Vielmetti

Posted on 11/13/2021 9:18:27 PM PST by SeekAndFind

Edited on 11/14/2021 8:33:37 AM PST by Jim Robinson. [history]

The judge in the Kyle Rittenhouse trial on Friday said he'll instruct the jury that unless the state proved the teen's AR-15-style rifle had an unlawfully short barrel, he can't be convicted of being a minor in possession of a firearm.


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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: Illinois; US: Wisconsin
KEYWORDS: banglist; firearm; illinois; judge; kenosha; kylerittenhouse; politicalprisoner; rittenhouse; wisconsin
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1 posted on 11/13/2021 9:18:27 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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2 posted on 11/13/2021 9:25:50 PM PST by Dalberg-Acton
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To: SeekAndFind

They better let the Guard use gas and at least rubber bullets.


3 posted on 11/13/2021 9:27:11 PM PST by doug from upland (Why the hell isn't Hillary Rodham Clinton in prison yet?)
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To: Dalberg-Acton

Very nice to see some stories that we’re winning.


4 posted on 11/13/2021 9:28:10 PM PST by sanjuanbob
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To: SeekAndFind

Why bother even excerpting & linking when the rest of the story is behind a paywall?

This content is only available to subscribers.


5 posted on 11/13/2021 9:36:48 PM PST by Kevmo (I’m immune from Covid since I don’t watch TV.🤗)
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To: doug from upland

They’ll be using them to fan the flames and protect the rioters


6 posted on 11/13/2021 9:37:15 PM PST by digger48
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To: SeekAndFind

This is good news!!


7 posted on 11/13/2021 9:44:15 PM PST by telescope115 (Proud member of the ANTIFAuci movement. )
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Re: Paywall

Retrieved the article by copying & pasting the address to Outline.

https://outline.com/


8 posted on 11/13/2021 9:52:22 PM PST by PsyCon
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https://archive.vn/www.jsonline.com/story/news/crime/2021/11/12/jury-instruction-may-clear-kyle-rittenhouse-gun-possession-charge-kenosha/8588970002/


9 posted on 11/13/2021 9:58:40 PM PST by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: SeekAndFind
an exception in the poorly-worded statute allows 16- and 17-year-olds to carry long guns in public.

It is not poorly worded, it is so simple that even this humble accountant reading it found it perfectly clear.

I don't understand why this charge was even allowed.

10 posted on 11/13/2021 10:07:45 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (add a dab of lavender in milk, leave town with an orange and pretend you're laughing with it)
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To: PsyCon

This is all I get by doing that.

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How about you do it and show us how it’s done?


11 posted on 11/13/2021 10:08:44 PM PST by Kevmo (I’m immune from Covid since I don’t watch TV.🤗)
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Rittenhouse was 17 when he defended himself against three
attackers.

“Rittenhouse was 17 when he killed two people and wounded a
third during protests in Kenosha in August 2020. He testified
he feared for his own life in each instance.”


12 posted on 11/13/2021 10:23:19 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Democrats, fixing things that haven't been broken, so they don't work, for over 197 years.)
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13 posted on 11/13/2021 10:33:57 PM PST by AnthonySoprano (‘’)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear
I don't understand why this charge was even allowed.

Judge Schroeder said he had to allow it because the prosecutor followed proper procedure in submitting it to the court.

It is not inconceivable the prosecution could have introduced evidence the barrel of the rifle was 15.95 inches long, for example.

Judge Schroeder waited until the evidence was closed to make this determination.

14 posted on 11/13/2021 10:38:10 PM PST by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries. )
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Except it wasn't.

So if you "properly submit something that is NOT TRUE the judge has to allow it?

Now I know why these people did not go into anything that requires math.

2+2=4 would have left them in tears.

15 posted on 11/13/2021 10:47:59 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (add a dab of lavender in milk, leave town with an orange and pretend you're laughing with it)
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When you are dealing with people who are willing to call you a racist because you mention the words "asian food", you have better be sure all your procedural issues are above reproach.

The world has been told, for a year and two months, the weapons charge was a slam dunk.

Judge Schroeder said he spent hours examining the statute and the legislative history.

16 posted on 11/13/2021 10:51:42 PM PST by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries. )
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The world has been told, for a year and two months, the weapons charge was a slam dunk.

And I have spent the past year and two months saying that it was not because I actually READ the statute.

It is really quite clean and clear.

I knew this the day after the shooting.

Judge Schroeder said he spent hours examining the statute and the legislative history.

Big whoop.

Color me not impressed. If as a judge you are saying a lie is truth because you are worried about being called a name you should turn in your judge card.

Life is hard.

It is even harder when you are a coward.

17 posted on 11/13/2021 11:00:44 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (add a dab of lavender in milk, leave town with an orange and pretend you're laughing with it)
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Color me not impressed. If as a judge you are saying a lie is truth because you are worried about being called a name you should turn in your judge card.

A judge cannot be effective if he is kicked off the court.

Judge Schroeder followed the judicial procedures to the letter.

A judge is not allowed to be the finder of fact.

You are asking Judge Schroeder to be a dictator instead of a judge.

Where did Judge Schroeder say a lie was the truth?

Judge Schroeder is not the judge who allowed the charge to be entered in the first place.

The charge was entered early in the procedings. It was challenged at that time. The judge who allowed it probably was in error, but he likely took the DA at their word in the initial process.

The error was compounded by the standard jury instructions for the crime, which do not even mention the exceptions.

18 posted on 11/13/2021 11:10:58 PM PST by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries. )
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TBH the outcomes here don’t interest me that much. I look forward to the day (and it’s coming) when Kyle is treated as the hero that he is, not subject to our corrupt and dying institutions whether he’s fully acquitted or not.


19 posted on 11/13/2021 11:15:54 PM PST by No_Mas_Obama
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I hope you are correct.
20 posted on 11/13/2021 11:21:52 PM PST by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries. )
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