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There Are Growing Fears That China Could Be Hiding Missiles In Containerships Worldwide (EMP)
Nation And State | 12-8-2021

Posted on 12/08/2021 6:38:36 AM PST by blam

stunning new report claims that China has been “secretly developing Trojan Horse-style missiles hidden in shipping containers” at a time when shipping and logistics is a key global focus.

The new allegations, raised in a report by The U.S. Sun, state that the missiles could be “unleased on enemy ports” and would be disguised amongst the country’s massive fleet of freighters and fishing vessels – which could then be “turned into warships” using the secret missiles.

The missiles could “blend in seamlessly” with hundreds of other containers on board ships, the report says. The shipping vessels are tougher to pinpoint than warships in the event of war, the report notes.

Rick Fisher, senior fellow in Asian military affairs at the International Assessment and Strategy Center, said of the potential Trojan Horse strategy that “it is likely” China has the missiles necessary.

Retired Navy Capt. Jim Fanell, a former Pacific Fleet intelligence chief, told the Sun that such ships could “add a significant threat” to the U.S. Navy.

The idea of such missiles made their way out into the public in 2016, during an arms fair. Since then, there has been speculation that they may be in service in China’s armed forces.

Fisher says that the type of weapon fits China’s military strategy and could be used after being smuggled into foreign ports all over the world.

“Chinese strategic preferences for surprise would strongly argue for acquisition” of the missiles, he said. They could be placed on “nondescript small Chinese ships in order to mount surprise missile raids against shore defenses to assist follow on amphibious or airborne invasion forces,” he continued.

They would “offer China’s leadership a wide array of options,” he continued, including “using larger container ships, thousands of fishing ships or stored containers in ports, to undertake military or terror mission strikes in a manner that can be denied if desired”.

“The CCP (Chinese Communist Party) is fully capable of using containerized missiles to sow chaos when desired,” he added.

He also speculated about the potential use of an EMP in conjunction with such missiles.

He concluded: “The EMP blast might take out electronics on the [submarines] and all over the base without having to launch a nuclear missile from China. Washington would be in chaos, would not know against whom to retaliate, and perhaps China uses American distraction to begin its real objective, the military conquest of Taiwan.”


TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: bloggers; china; containerships; emp; missiles; redchina; war; whatisthisidonteven
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1 posted on 12/08/2021 6:38:36 AM PST by blam
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To: blam

Of course a little development like this won’t stop Disney, Zuckerberg, McConnell, Biden, et al from kissing Chicom arse. The pay is just too good.


2 posted on 12/08/2021 6:40:58 AM PST by skeeter
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To: blam

All the more reason to sink their commercial fleet in any war.

Of course China is building everything in secret, including additional nuclear ICBMs.


3 posted on 12/08/2021 6:41:25 AM PST by Williams (Stop Tolerating The Intolerant)
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To: blam

Club K’s...they have been around for a while and yes, they are real and likely dispersed throughout the country. Hidden in plain sight.


4 posted on 12/08/2021 6:43:49 AM PST by mlitefan (Long time lurker...)
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To: blam

They gave us the virus and we did nothing.

It would be a devastating blow if they used EMPs to knock out our major ports.

On the one hand, we could, at a minimum, use our subs to retaliate. We could knock out the 3 Gorges Dam, hit their big cities and really devastate China.

We could.

But if they use the EMPs to knock out our ports, and then they follow up with a threat to use hyper-sonic thermonuclear devices against our population centers, I think there is an excellent chance that the Biden Admin would do nothing — except possibly apologize to the Globalists for our evil Western ways.

America ends. Western civilization ends. We just go out with a whimper. I can see it happening.


5 posted on 12/08/2021 6:44:07 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (Alec Baldwin has killed more people than the Jan 6 protesters. And he will serve less jail time.)
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To: blam
I was under the impression the US developed technology for detecting concealed nuclear weapons.

A new method of detection may mean safer shores
6 posted on 12/08/2021 6:46:49 AM PST by DEPcom (Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules)
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To: blam

Is there any evidence that they did do this? It’s “could be” and “might” and lots of things could be and might be.

I’d speculate, since we are speculating here, that China wants world-wide hegemony, and Taiwan is their next target.

But I’d also speculate that they want to get richer while gaining world-wide hegemony, so they don’t want America, Russia, Australia, Japan and South Korea making a fuss about their takeover of Taiwan.

Pull a Pearl Harbor on the US, and even with Foe Jiden nominally at the helm, sh!t will fly right at them. Milley and his pals will be given sinecures, and the real generals and admirals will take over, and Foe Jiden and Congress will just rubber stamp whatever they want to do and they’ll do it. And however many carriers China has, US naval pilots are the best and most experienced carrier pilots in the world. The Chicoms have all the toys, but don’t know how to play.


7 posted on 12/08/2021 6:49:23 AM PST by Eleutheria5 (Buck Foe Jiden!)
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To: blam

Fears!

Stunning!


8 posted on 12/08/2021 6:50:21 AM PST by Fury
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To: Eleutheria5

Do you recall the Palermo Senator incident off the NJ coast back in 2002...?

Its next port of call after NYC was Norfolk.


9 posted on 12/08/2021 6:51:07 AM PST by mewzilla (Those aren't masks. They're muzzles. )
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To: blam

Got a link for the article? Thanks!


10 posted on 12/08/2021 6:52:33 AM PST by Perseverando (Antifa, BLM, RINOs, Islamonazis, Marxists, Commucrats, DemoKKKrats: It's a Godlessness disorder!)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Except for them EVIL ROOOOSIANS.

They wiggle and we will get them.


11 posted on 12/08/2021 6:52:51 AM PST by crz
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To: Eleutheria5

Evidence?! Of course not.


12 posted on 12/08/2021 6:53:53 AM PST by discostu (Like a dog being shown a card trick )
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To: DEPcom

Not useful for this.

It would have to be a container, taken off and then very locally bombarded with gamma rays, from your link.

A ship that didn’t unload a container or stayed out of dock would be able to launch.


13 posted on 12/08/2021 6:55:40 AM PST by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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To: blam

Destroying the world economy does nothing for China. There is zero reason for them to attack anyone. And they would destroy the SLBMs that would destroy their country.

And hiding missiles in containers is not high tech, ground breaking news.

Why people get “excited” about this stuff is beyond me.


14 posted on 12/08/2021 6:55:54 AM PST by Vermont Lt
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To: blam

Ever notice all those “COSCO” containers? They’re everywhere

COSCO = China Overseas Shipping Co.

... and it’s connected to the Chinese military


15 posted on 12/08/2021 6:57:59 AM PST by canuck_conservative
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To: blam

I asked a man who has been in container shipping for 35 years about this threat. He asked me what did I think was in OUR containers? Hmmm...tit for tat?


16 posted on 12/08/2021 6:59:07 AM PST by ryderann
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To: DEPcom

I was under the impression the US developed technology for detecting concealed nuclear weapons.

They would not need to be nuclear. Lots of conventional warheads could also be devastating.


17 posted on 12/08/2021 7:03:22 AM PST by Paperpusher
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To: blam

Usually a link is required to post to another website. I know they don’t want to send the clicks that way necessarily, but I thought it should be included at the top.

Here it is for those looking for it.
https://www.nationandstate.com/2021/12/08/there-are-growing-fears-that-china-could-be-hiding-missiles-in-containerships-worldwide/?amp


18 posted on 12/08/2021 7:06:12 AM PST by FamiliarFace
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To: FamiliarFace

Or maybe the original was at Zero Hedge?
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/there-are-growing-fears-china-could-be-hiding-missiles-containerships-worldwide


19 posted on 12/08/2021 7:07:49 AM PST by FamiliarFace
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To: blam
...could be used after being smuggled into foreign ports all over the world...

I seriously doubt that. If these kinds of systems are a reality, they'll never see the inside of a foreign port.

Chinese culture includes such things as patience and careful planning. If they have developed missile systems in shipping containers (and why not, makes for convenient storage and transport), pre-positioning them would represent a huge risk.

All it would take would be one random inspection finding one and "the jig is up" as they say. Sure, only a fraction of containers get inspected, and officials can be bought or frightened or killed but... You don't plan for good luck. In fact if you plan for luck at all you plan for bad luck.

Pre-positioning would also be at the mercy of the port facility. What if your container is buried under a bunch of others?

Missiles have a shelf life - they need maintenance and checks to ensure they'll work. Kind of hard to do with a container simply sitting in a holding facility. Granted, that interval might be measured in months or years but it is not indefinite. They're not Twinkies. ;-)

Shipping containers are a good idea. They would allow you to get a launch platform very close for a surprise attack. But it is the kind of thing you can only do once. It would take a coordinated effort to synchronize getting the containers on the right ships, in the right positions on the ships, and getting the ships in position simultaneously. Finally, it is probably, almost certainly a one way trip for the ships. It wouldn't take a genius to figure out where the missiles came from and whatever country was attacked would no-doubt retaliate against the launch platforms.

20 posted on 12/08/2021 7:08:09 AM PST by ThunderSleeps (Biden/Harris - illegitimate and everyone knows it.)
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