Posted on 03/05/2022 11:04:55 PM PST by Angelino97
Since Russia’s invasion of Ukraine began last week, most Israeli leaders across the political spectrum have either expressed full support for Ukrainians or cautiously supported a neutral approach for strategic reasons, fearful of harming the country’s interests in Russia-controlled Syria.
A minority on the right, however, has gone as far as to express a measure of sympathy and identification with Russian President Vladimir Putin’s justifications for Russia asserting a historic claim to Ukrainian territory.
“People in Russia suit Putin’s rule. Kyiv is Russia’s birthplace. Kyiv for Putin is like Bethlehem and Hebron,” said Maj. Gen. (ret.) Gershon Hacohen, a senior research associate at the Begin-Sadat Center for Strategic Studies, in a recent interview on Kan public television.
Hacohen questioned the assumption that Israel needed to stand with the “Free World” and be on the “right side of history.”
“Is the European Union on ‘the right side of history’ when it opposes me when it comes to Judea and Samaria [the West Bank], building for the Palestinians and pouring money into anti-Zionist NGOs?” he said. “I have to ask myself: what is the right side of history for me?”
While condemning the brutality of Putin’s invasion, some right-wing commentators – similar to their U.S. counterparts, most famously Fox News host Tucker Carlson – positively contrasted the Russian leader’s strength with what they see as the weakness of leaders in Western Europe and the United States, and their failure to offer a counterbalance to his aggression over the years.
Noam Fathi, a right-wing journalist and broadcaster, as well a fierce advocate of former Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, tweeted that it was NATO and the West who were “standing on the ‘stupid side of history,’” since “it’s the NATO countries who repeatedly provoked Putin, blatantly violated agreements with him …
(Excerpt) Read more at haaretz.com ...
Kyiv was the birthplace of the Rus as a people - and the "Rus" include the later daughter countries of Belarus, Russia and Ukraine
The core of the Roman Empire was around the mediterranean. The geographical center was Sicily.
the EU is not the Roman empire - the bulk of it is outside any iteration of the ancient Roman empire
“Israel” as a governmental entity is NOT “supporting Russia against the US”.
Some Israelis support Russia - but that is not “against the US”, rather “against Ukraine”
But there isn't such a case -- here we have some Israelies supporting Russia FOR THIS particular case in Ukraine.
people in countries are allowed to have multiple friends, right?
Do not take this newspaper, “Ha’eretz” seriously. 99% of the Israelis are supporting NATO, the West, the USA, Ukraine. This Left-wing sh*thole of a newspaper loves to print Leftist, anti-Israel (even though they are Israelis) rubbish so please ignore these scum.
Also that Israel is subjected to what is likely worse lefttard BS than we can imagine. Where the left can be horrific in the US, the left is literally an existential threat in Israel.
And I can't say this relates to this situation simply because it seems everyone is lying about everything to do with this entire idiocy, particularly since the US elections were stolen in 2020.
Don’t be fooled. This is Haaretz, Israel’s version of the Guardian, hard left agit-prop all the time. Anything to make Israel look bad is red meat. Cherry picking a couple of outliers does not mean “the Israel right” supports Putin. Jews have a pretty good historical memory and we remember that the Holocaust started with a totalitarian dictator claiming that he needed to invade neighbors to protect ethnic minorities. So, no. As a general rule, I wouldn’t expect Israelis to be backing Putin. They might have to hedge their bets and criticism in the conflict because they can’t afford to make Putin an adversary, but I highly doubt that any sector of Israeli society is cheering for Putin.
This is about some Israelis who support Putin. Israelis reading the article would know that the people in the article don’t represent all Israelis. Don’t we know that too? Shouldn’t we?
I do see the parallel between the Russians and Kiev, the Israelis and the West Bank, and the Serbians and Kosovo. When a place is part of your national history and folklore it can be hard to let go of it, even if the people there don't want you there.
Follow the money. Anyone speaking out in the West saying Putin is a good guy is ipso facto on Putin’s payroll.
don’t bite the hands that feed you
Funny how that worked out isn't it? Meanwhile the Dragon looks on.
The Slav populated the Ukraine region
“Despite so much money to protect from becoming extinct, the first thing they do is wish the US dead”
I believe the term “toxic charity” might apply.
Excellent analogy, the invasion route to Moscow is the Ukraine.
Actually, you’ve just explained today’s dimocRAT voter/enabler.
Yep. Very revealing.
Ww1 Germany attacks Russia
Ww2 Germany attacks Russia
Napoleonic wars France, Germany attack Russia.
Maybe, just maybe Russia has reason to be a little paranoid.
So do Russia's neighbors, Ukraine included.
Do some research.
Matt 3:9-11: And think not to say within yourselves, We have Abraham to our father: for I say unto you, that God is able of these stones to raise up children unto Abraham. And now also the axe is laid unto the root of the trees: therefore every tree which bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance: but he that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost, and with fire:
Yes, once upon a time, Israel was chosen as God's people:
Deut 14:2: For thou art an holy people unto the LORD thy God, and the LORD hath chosen thee to be a peculiar people unto himself, above all the nations that are upon the earth.
Israel's relationship to God was conditioned upon their obedience. If they fell away, which they inevitably did, He was going to destroy them Himself:
1 Kings 9:6 But if ye shall at all turn from following me, ye or your children, and will not keep my commandments and my statutes which I have set before you, but go and serve other gods, and worship them: 7 Then will I cut off Israel out of the land which I have given them; and this house, which I have hallowed for my name, will I cast out of my sight; and Israel shall be a proverb and a byword among all people:
Again:
Deut 4:25 When thou shalt beget children, and children's children, and ye shall have remained long in the land, and shall corrupt yourselves, and make a graven image, or the likeness of any thing, and shall do evil in the sight of the LORD thy God, to provoke him to anger: 26 I call heaven and earth to witness against you this day, that ye shall soon utterly perish from off the land whereunto ye go over Jordan to possess it; ye shall not prolong your days upon it, but shall utterly be destroyed.
For example, at Kadesh Barnea after the multitude followed the faithless spies' negative report, God was going to destroy them.
Num 14:11 And the LORD said unto Moses, How long will this people provoke me? and how long will it be ere they believe me, for all the signs which I have shewed among them? 12 I will smite them with the pestilence, and disinherit them, and will make of thee a greater nation and mightier than they.
Again, after Korah and company were destroyed,
Num 16:41-47 But on the morrow all the congregation of the children of Israel murmured against Moses and against Aaron, saying, Ye have killed the people of the LORD. And it came to pass, when the congregation was gathered against Moses and against Aaron, that they looked toward the tabernacle of the congregation: and, behold, the cloud covered it, and the glory of the LORD appeared. And Moses and Aaron came before the tabernacle of the congregation. And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying, Get you up from among this congregation, that I may consume them as in a moment. And they fell upon their faces. And Moses said unto Aaron, Take a censer, and put fire therein from off the altar, and put on incense, and go quickly unto the congregation, and make an atonement for them: for there is wrath gone out from the LORD; the plague is begun. And Aaron took as Moses commanded, and ran into the midst of the congregation; and, behold, the plague was begun among the people: and he put on incense, and made an atonement for the people.
Warned by Joshua
Josh 23:11-13: Take good heed therefore unto yourselves, that ye love the LORD your God. Else if ye do in any wise go back, and cleave unto the remnant of these nations, even these that remain among you, and shall make marriages with them, and go in unto them, and they to you: Know for a certainty that the LORD your God will no more drive out any of these nations from before you; but they shall be snares and traps unto you, and scourges in your sides, and thorns in your eyes, until ye perish from off this good land which the LORD your God hath given you.
Josh 23:16: When ye have transgressed the covenant of the LORD your God, which he commanded you, and have gone and served other gods, and bowed yourselves to them; then shall the anger of the LORD be kindled against you, and ye shall perish quickly from off the good land which he hath given unto you.
1 Kings 14:15-16: For the LORD will strike Israel, as a reed is shaken in the water. He will uproot Israel from this good land which He gave to their fathers, and will scatter them beyond the River, because they have made their wooden images, provoking the LORD to anger. And He will give Israel up because of the sins of Jeroboam, who sinned and who made Israel sin."
God gave Israel up, as they ultimately consisted of the ten tribes in the north. What remained was Judah and Benjamin to the south. But as Bible believing Christians know, that was just until Christ's church was established. When Titus destroyed Jerusalem in AD 70, along with their genealogical records, that was the end. The "abomination of desolation" spoken of in Daniel.
Israel exists as only a secular nation. Yes, it's a political ally of the United States. But the only way anybody today can be a child of God is through Jesus Christ.
John 14:6: Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
The ridiculous dispensational nonsense that circulates among "Christians" is derived from twisted interpretations of Revelation as something to be fulfilled in the future. Yet Revelation very plainly sets forth the events were contemporary to the readers.
Rev 1:1 The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John:
Again,
Rev. 1:3 Blessed is he that readeth, and they that hear the words of this prophecy, and keep those things which are written therein: for the time is at hand.
"At Hand" for John's contemporaries. The events in Revelation were fulfilled at the destruction of Jerusalem.
Wake up.
Rom 10:1-9: Brethren, my heart's desire and prayer to God for Israel is, that they might be saved. For I bear them record that they have a zeal of God, but not according to knowledge. For they being ignorant of God's righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God. For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth. For Moses describeth the righteousness which is of the law, That the man which doeth those things shall live by them. But the righteousness which is of faith speaketh on this wise, Say not in thine heart, Who shall ascend into heaven? (that is, to bring Christ down from above:) Or, Who shall descend into the deep? (that is, to bring up Christ again from the dead.) But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach; That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
Notice that last verse? Jews reject Christ as coeternal with God; as a part of the Godhead.
Heb 9:27: And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment
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