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‘No Offensive Biologic Weapons’ in Ukrainian Biolabs: Pentagon Tells Congress. Says the labs seek to prevent bioweapons and pathogens
Epoch Times ^ | 04/04/2022 | Katabella Roberts

Posted on 04/04/2022 9:27:22 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: SeekAndFind

Wuhan days hi...


61 posted on 04/04/2022 12:03:19 PM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style )
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To: Bratch

Whaaaat? Is that Mike Pence? When did he become a tranny?


62 posted on 04/04/2022 12:19:09 PM PDT by Zuriel (Acts 2:38,39....Do you believe it?)
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To: BlueLancer
"If you have “defensive” samples of offensive biologicals, it’s just a short step to develop more “defensive offensive samples” ..."

No, actually it is not. "Weaponization" of biological organisms turns out to be a quite difficult and involved process. Whatever organism is being weaponized must be converted into a form that 1) retrains its biological lethality, 2) is stable on release (until it reaches a viable environment to multiply...usually the lung), 3) is of a particle size that will be breathed in and then lodge in the lung, but not breathed back out on exhale. None of these steps is easy.

63 posted on 04/04/2022 12:25:21 PM PDT by Wonder Warthog (Not Responding to Seagull Snark)
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To: SeekAndFind

Interesting that it went from “NO LABS” to, “Well, some labs” to “Lab, but there were used for GOOD!”


64 posted on 04/04/2022 12:26:28 PM PDT by redgolum (If this is civilization, I will be the barbarian. )
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To: SeekAndFind

I found out something very surprising this weekend.
I found out that the center for genetic manipulation on humans is INSIDE Ukraine.
After asking some questions I discovered this is common knowledge on the West Coast and many CA’s have used it.
Can’t say too much more without implicating extended family members but I was more than a little shocked.


65 posted on 04/04/2022 12:41:54 PM PDT by Zathras
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To: proust

“Department of Defense even took down their webpages on it.”

Well, that settles the question then! I mean, if there’s no webpage it can’t exist.


66 posted on 04/04/2022 1:28:12 PM PDT by LouieFisk
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To: yesthatjallen

It’s odd these research facilities that study deadly pathogens never seems to come up with effective preventives, treatments, or cures.

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I thought of an idea to prepare for the wuhan coronavirus just by reading in the news that men and older people have more severe cases.

Men have more stored iron than women. Older people have more stored iron than younger people. So the common sense reaction is, maybe we can prepare by not having unnecessary iron.

Since it’s obvious, I searched for who else thought about it. Many people in different countries suggested in scientific publications testing removing iron from the body to treat it.

Blood ferritin can be used to estimate stored iron. If blood ferririn is less than 70 ng/ml, the person has an iron deficiency. If a person has more iron than they need, they can remove blood while keeping their blood ferritin at or above 70 ng/ml. If someone removes 550 ml of blood or donates it, 6 weeks later his blood ferritin is reduced 30 ng/ml.


67 posted on 04/04/2022 1:47:36 PM PDT by TTFX
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To: SeekAndFind

So tell me how you know your “defensive bioweapons” are good/work if you don’t have any offensive capabilities?


68 posted on 04/04/2022 1:51:31 PM PDT by FranklinsTower
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To: Wonder Warthog

After the fall of the Soviet Union, it was dangerous to be a researcher in viral epidemiology. anyone that was connected to weapons research around the world that tried to go at it without a state sponsor was being watched and if they were thought to be continuing the research, they were killed.... Go back and listen to some of the old art bell radio and this fact was being talked about in 90s on radio. If you think that benign research was being done you are an idiot. the moment that the world stopped watching the scientists powerful people put them back to work. My bet is that most of those working are not cold war era scientists but scientists that graduated in the last 10 years from all over the world. why Ukraine because little or no monitoring and facilities left over from cold war that could be up graded cheaply to do the job.


69 posted on 04/04/2022 1:52:31 PM PDT by PCPOET7 (`)
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To: Skepolitic

Antifa hates Jews

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I thought someone said that George Soros funded antifa.


70 posted on 04/04/2022 1:54:59 PM PDT by TTFX
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To: SeekAndFind

I seriously doubt they would conduct bioweapon research in Ukraine, for a variety of reasons.

BUT

Their explanation uses weasel words, probably just standard operating procedure. Any pathogen research which develops vaccines, antiserums, monoclonal antibodies, or drugs can be converted into a weapons program in a day or two (presuming a “naked” delivery system already in existence).

There is no reason for NIH or AMRIID to conduct research outside of the US, unless the research is forbidden domestically and they are afraid they could get caught.

The “labs” in Ukraine were most likely money laundering facilities for Members of Congress. The security environment in Ukraine was too poor to purposely do pathogen research there.


71 posted on 04/04/2022 1:59:00 PM PDT by Jim Noble (Who saves the nation breaks no law)
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To: SeekAndFind

https://www.dtra.mil/About/DTRA-History/

DTRA name changes through the years

MANHATTAN PROJECT 1942 -1946
Armed Forces Special Weapons Project 1946 - 1959
Defense Atomic Support Agency 1959 - 1971
Defense Nuclear Agency 1971 - 1996
Defense Special Weapons Agency 1996 - 1998
Defense Threat Reduction Agency 1998 - Today

It started as the nuclear weapons program and eventually morphed into controlling all non-conventional weapon programs.


72 posted on 04/04/2022 2:10:22 PM PDT by yuleeyahoo (The nation which can prefer disgrace to danger is prepared for a master and deserves one. Hamilton)
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To: SeekAndFind

Odd, that isn’t what Victoria Nuland said.


73 posted on 04/04/2022 2:14:11 PM PDT by dforest
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To: Wonder Warthog

No, actually it is not. “Weaponization” of biological organisms turns out to be a quite difficult and involved process. Whatever organism is being weaponized must be converted into a form that 1) retrains its biological lethality, 2) is stable on release (until it reaches a viable environment to multiply...usually the lung), 3) is of a particle size that will be breathed in and then lodge in the lung, but not breathed back out on exhale. None of these steps is easy.

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So can the process you’re describing be called “gain of function”


74 posted on 04/04/2022 2:46:21 PM PDT by thinden
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To: SeekAndFind

If the U.S. was interested in protecting its people from bio weapons, the antidote to Covid-19 would have been immediately available.


75 posted on 04/04/2022 2:51:41 PM PDT by liberalh8ter (The only difference between flash mob 'urban yutes' and U.S. politicians is the hoodies.)
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To: SeekAndFind

https://youtu.be/InaRIYFPMiY


76 posted on 04/04/2022 3:29:21 PM PDT by WASCWatch ( WASC)
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To: SeekAndFind
"THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS THE MAFIA!!"

Tony Soprano to daughter Meadow, driving home from a college-shopping trip to New England, where he made a side stop to kill a guy who went State's evidence.

77 posted on 04/04/2022 3:32:58 PM PDT by OKSooner ("Anyone who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." - Voltaire)
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To: thinden
"So can the process you’re describing be called “gain of function”"

No...totally different things.

78 posted on 04/04/2022 4:31:42 PM PDT by Wonder Warthog (Not Responding to Seagull Snark)
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To: PCPOET7
"Go back and listen to some of the old art bell radio and this fact was being talked about in 90s on radio.

I don't listen to Art Bell (or any radio).

"If you think that benign research was being done you are an idiot. the moment that the world stopped watching the scientists powerful people put them back to work."

And when did the world stop watching??

"My bet is that most of those working are not cold war era scientists but scientists that graduated in the last 10 years from all over the world.

Total speculation.

"why Ukraine because little or no monitoring and facilities left over from cold war that could be up graded cheaply to do the job."

Why do you think Ukraine wasn't monitored? Certainly any labs funded by the US were monitored.

79 posted on 04/04/2022 4:37:48 PM PDT by Wonder Warthog (Not Responding to Seagull Snark)
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To: Wonder Warthog

ask yourself how old a scientist would be from the cold war today....if they were in there mid 30s when it all fell apart, they would be late 60s today......you are right about speculation on where the scientist come from but its a joke if you think the people working in the labs today are the same group that was there when the cold war ended. I am sure there are some older scientists that are from the cold war era but there are a few. art bell has been dead for 15 years and he stoped his radio show 20 years ago. there is only his achieves to listen to but they are informative along with stuff that is just plain crazy shit that you have to be an idiot to believe. he was internet rumor before the internet exsisted.


80 posted on 04/04/2022 6:07:23 PM PDT by PCPOET7 (`)
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