Posted on 04/04/2022 10:17:02 AM PDT by Red Badger
Ukrainian police posted on Facebook that they had conducted a “clearing op” in Bucha the day before videos emerged showing dead bodies scattered around the settlement, as the war of words over the alleged “war crime” continues.
NATO powers and pro-Ukraine commentators have seized upon the alleged atrocity in a bid to escalate the war, with MSNBC hosts and guests even asserting that it justifies directly attacking Russia and putting American boots on the ground in Ukraine.
MSNBC host Ali Velshi demanded “direct military involvement,” something that would almost inevitably kick off World War III, in response to the alleged incident.
MSNBC this morning is a full-fledged editorial for direct US/NATO intervention. The outright pro-war advocacy has reached another gear pic.twitter.com/KYLcxYcUEv
— Michael Tracey (@mtracey) April 3, 2022
Former Army Major John Spencer also appeared on the same show to demand American “boots on the ground” in Ukraine.
MSNBC crossed a threshold today into outright lobbying for WWIII pic.twitter.com/XOCWHmwqtL
— Michael Tracey (@mtracey) April 3, 2022
Moscow has vehemently denied involvement, claiming Ukraine shelled the city after Russian troops had already withdrawn.
The only evidence offered so far pointing to Russian responsibility is the claims of Ukrainian authorities, with are being breathlessly amplified by the mainstream media without an ounce of skepticism.
Margaret Brennan of CBS admitted that Ukrainian President Zelensky’s team had “handed” her the videos and they were broadcast, as journalist Michael Tracey wrote, with “zero independent corroboration.”
Margaret Brennan of CBS admits that Zelensky's "team" handed her some photos/videos, and she's now going to broadcast them on TV with zero independent corroboration. Just openly purveying a foreign country's war propaganda. This is what's considered Real Journalism™ in the US pic.twitter.com/PCXZ11w2kR
— Michael Tracey (@mtracey) April 3, 2022
The notion that Ukrainian authorities, who have been caught staging innumerable incidents already in a bid to lobby for more NATO military involvement, would lie about this is seemingly not even a consideration.
A timeline provided from reporting by the New York Times suggests that pro-Ukrainian Azov neo-nazi militants entered Bucha after Russian troops left and after the Mayor of Bucha had announced the town’s liberation with no mention of any atrocities.
Mar 30: Ru troops leave Bucha Mar 31: Mayor of Bucha announces town 'liberated', makes no mention of atrocities.https://t.co/WLAfjJOfZt Apr 1/2: Azov Nazis enter Buchahttps://t.co/WkSTMUJy4O Apr 3: Ukr MinDef publishes video of 'Russian' atrocitieshttps://t.co/HDUUYI7zex pic.twitter.com/PQUgD9izpz
— Moon of Alabama (@MoonofA) April 3, 2022
One member of Azov was reportedly heard asking if he could shoot individuals who weren’t wearing blue armbands.
Lat night, Sergey "Boatsman" Korotkikh, infamous Neo-Nazi & member of Azov, posted a video titled "The BOATSMAN BOYS in Bucha". At the 6 second mark you can clearly hear the dialogue:
"There are guys without blue armbands, can I shoot them?" "Fuck yeah" pic.twitter.com/n8WY1D0xRe
— Russians With Attitude (@RWApodcast) April 3, 2022
Another report asserts that Ukrainian national police posted on Facebook how they had conducted a “clearing operation” in Bucha before the alleged atrocities occurred accompanied by a video of their men walking around the town.
“Today, on 2 April, in the liberated city of Bucha, Kiev region, special units of the Ukrainian National Police began clearing the area of saboteurs and accomplices of Russian troops,” the Facebook post said.
As ever, with propaganda on both sides, it is virtually impossible to know what happened in Bucha, but to claim it’s an open and shut case of “war crimes” as the western media proclaims without any independent evidence is clearly ludicrous.
>>MSNBC host Ali Velshi demanded “direct military involvement,”
I think he should pick up a rifle himself and head over.
Videos of the atrocities appeared almost immediately on the internet. So it’s simply not true that their is “no evidence” of Russian involvement.
The Russians invaded, they have been shelling civilians, they have been kidnapping and transporting Ukrainians, they have engaged in numerous atrocities. Those who claim there is “no evidence” of any of this are idiots.
Having said that, there is no way I would ever support direct American involvement in Ukraine.
It all reminds me of the USS Maine in Havana Harbor. In the midst of a propaganda campaign of unbelievable size and scope, it is basically impossible to tell what has really happened. The Democrats have concluded that the only thing that can save them from oblivion is WWIII, so now all of them are war hawks, with a bunch of cheerleading going on right here.
Second video down - a 'corpse' moves his arm (or leg?) once the camera car goes past.
Expreso.TV video, as shown on Southfront.
They misspoke slightly, it should read:
Ukrainian Police Said They Conducted “False Flag Op” in Bucha a Day Before Dead Body Videos Emerged
Don't trust ANYTHING from the media. Trust MSNBC even less.
How is AZOV holed up in Mariupol and simultaneously 400 miles away north of Kiev ??? AZOV is only a battalion sized unit 1500-2000 men. They were in Mariupol (their historic base) but now they are somewhere else entirely. I think AZOV is becoming the “go to” Russian excuse for every bad thing that happens in Ukraine now. Unless these guys travel at supersonic speed, they can’t be two places at once.
Don't worry, You don't have to, if Ukraine Nazis, Homo GloboNazis and Biden Crime Inc. win in Ukraine, they win in America as well.
They'll bring HomoNazi Tyranny "Direct" to you.
LOL. Very nicely done.
The corpse raising its arm was a zombie.
You sound like you need mental help. Really.
You guys :0)
Those who swallow every piece of nonsense produced by the mainstream leftist media are the true idiots. This is a war. All sorts of bad things are being done by both sides. We have two corrupt governments who only want to win and neither care how many innocents are caught in the crossfire. We need to stay as far away from all of it as possible.
You we're Right!
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Margaret Brennan of CBS admitted that Ukrainian President Zelensky’s team had “handed” her the videos and they were broadcast, as journalist Michael Tracey wrote, with “zero independent corroboration.”
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Leftists are suckers.
I smell Propaganda at play. Lets sink the Lusitania to get American help. The bodies look staged but—horrible things happen in war—and if civilians were feeding poison to Russian troops and doing acts of war—I could see how things could go. Its not genocide -Cultural displacement maybe—Ukraine needs to get US and NATO troops on the ground to help them beat Russia and win back Crimea. Europeans know better—but Americans are suckers for an emotional pitch. Americans hate war but we dearly love a crusade. We want to fight Satan! To save the world for Democracy! We will die to invade Russia and pull down Satan-Putin and his mad monster men. We need Captain America! No one thinks this could effect them directly—but Russia could “Turn off the lights” and pull the USA into a second class power in weeks.
Curiously, I notice most of them have their faces turned away from the camera. Is this so they can’t be identified as actually being Russian civilians (of whom there are many in that area) killed by the Azov brigades or the Ukrainian military itself?
This whole thing is just a giant joke to our lords and masters, including the most recent member of the lords and masters club, Zelensky.
Putin is no hero, certainly, but this blatant, insane propaganda manipulation by the US is going to backfire and will actually make him more popular among Russians.
But that’s okay...this is the most frivolous, ignorant administration ever, from top to bottom, so I guess it would be unrealistic to ever expect them to think about the consequences of their publicity stunts.
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