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Scott Ritter: Battle of Donbass
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Posted on 04/12/2022 7:34:06 PM PDT by ganeemead

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To: Basket_of_Deplorables

Bingo.


161 posted on 04/13/2022 7:44:51 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Plugs the Pedo - The Shart Heard 'Round The World)
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To: caww

Yep.


162 posted on 04/13/2022 7:48:11 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Plugs the Pedo - The Shart Heard 'Round The World)
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To: McGruff; ganeemead
Euromaidan coup Ukraine would be untied and at peace.

It wasn't a coup - but you're right that it would have been "untied"

There is not a single bit of evidence that US had anything to do anything with 2014 revolution.

That’s Putin’s propaganda you are repeating.

The Ukrainian revolution of 2013–2014 was not a coup d’état by Americans, but rather a popular uprising driven by the hostility of Ukrainians to the idea of entering into a deep and binding economic union with Russia. American (and other Western) support did play a role in supporting the protesters as they became revolutionaries, but even without this support the opponents of the pro-Russian Ukrainian government would still have been active.

Those who like to believe the CIA is behind it will say that it was a coup by the US and the EU. In reality it all started already late 2013 a group of students protested against the fact that Yanukovich would not sign the Eastern Partnership agreement with the EU (Moldova and Georgia already had). Yanukovich had used this agreement to go to Moscow and get more money from Russia in exchange for not signing. These students disagreed so they set up a protest on Kreschatyk the main street of Kyiv Yanukovych government response was to send in law enforcement who beat up the protesters and sent several into the clinic. This brutality pissed of more people who then started their own protest which merged with the student protest. And soon people from all ages joined for different reasons: anti-corruption, against high unemployment, the low pensions, poor life for war veterans etc. The original protest served as a catalyst that suddenly burst open the dissatisfaction that lived with many

Things were at a standstill when Yanukovich gave orders to the Berkut, Ukrainian special police force (bit like SWAT in the US) to organise a wide spread attack to break up the protests and restore order. For this they gathered troops from outside of Kyiv too and put snipers on the rooftops. The rest is history. A real battle followed and people died.

Yanukovich got scared, grabbed all the cash and jewellery he could and fled East to Donetsk where he came from. Unfortunately for him he had burned his bridges there as well by scamming the Donbas maffia while in office. When he was then refused passage by the Ukrainian border guards at the Russian border Putin sent in special forces to extradite Yanukovich, his family and some of his most loyal supporters to Russia where he know lives in wealth and at the mercy of Putin should he come in useful ever again. All Yanukovich had had to do was like those before him make some promises to the protesters, sign some symbolic legislation and then continue business as usual. Instead he chose the confrontation and lost.

163 posted on 04/14/2022 1:08:39 AM PDT by Cronos
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To: Basket_of_Deplorables

All I’ve ever seen NATO do is bomb innocent people, usually for the benefit of narco-terrorists and other kinds of barbarians, that sweems to be all they’re good for.


164 posted on 04/14/2022 2:17:01 AM PDT by ganeemead
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