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Elon, you have no idea what the hell you’re talking about
Techcrunch ^ | April 26, 2022 | Devin Coldewey

Posted on 05/03/2022 12:32:51 PM PDT by hadit2here

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To: semimojo

Just like any private org.

Why should a public town center, just because it is in a virtual space vs physical space, not be required to allow free speech?

You must make it non-free to have rules.


141 posted on 05/03/2022 8:40:27 PM PDT by fuzzylogic (welfare state = sharing of poor moral choices among everybody)
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To: fuzzylogic
Why should a public town center, just because it is in a virtual space vs physical space, not be required to allow free speech?

It isn’t a matter of virtual vs. physical. It’s a matter of ownership.

The public town center, real or virtual, is owned by the public. The speakers are the owners.

The social media companies are owned by their shareholders who get to decide what speech is allowed.

When the government owns a social media platform censorship on that platform will be illegal.

142 posted on 05/03/2022 9:05:09 PM PDT by semimojo (5)
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To: DiogenesLamp

Yes, “soy boy” describes my acquaintance perfectly.


143 posted on 05/04/2022 3:12:50 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (Bob Dylan: "Propaganda, all is phony")
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To: semimojo

This is the very point though - it shouldn’t matter if you’re a private company, if you create a public space it is a public space - free speech applies regardless if it is physical or virtual. Twitter is even described as “the new public square”.

I’m suggesting we evolve our notion of “public space” and bring it into the 21st century by including virtual spaces that are free and public. If you want it private then charge for entry and impose as many rules as you like - just like private clubs.


144 posted on 05/04/2022 6:14:36 AM PDT by fuzzylogic (welfare state = sharing of poor moral choices among everybody)
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To: semimojo
Now you know how I feel.

No, I really don't know how insanity feels. So far I have avoided catching it from anyone and I do so mainly by rejecting out of hand ideas which are self evidently insane.

You’re the one saying businesses, like the tech socials, lose their rights if they serve the public.

I'm saying there *NEVER WAS* a right to control public speech. The very idea is contrary to natural rights.

Despite the fact that they don’t and never have said they serve everyone.

What people say doesn't matter. What people *DO* defines what they are.

They serve those who explicitly agree to live by their rules (TOS).

Legal dodge only possible in a screwed up legal system.

Any contract which requires you to give up inherent rights is null and void. You cannot be made a slave by contract. You cannot offer a "pound of flesh" by a contract.

You don’t like them so want to deny them the right to set their own terms by creating a bizarre definition of ‘public’.

They never had a right to set such terms. It is inherently wrong and immoral for carriers of communications to discriminate against the public.

145 posted on 05/04/2022 7:42:16 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: semimojo
But it's not 'the public'. It's a group of people who formally agreed to the TOS.

You cannot give up inherent rights through contract.

These people said they would play by the rules if they were let in.

Normal people would assume normal rules. Discriminating against the public is not nor should it be normal. If the rules required the banning of black people, should anyone respect them?

You've made clear that principle isn't very important to you but shouldn't that matter?

Principles are very important to me. You are just defending a lesser one at the expense of a far greater one.

You are throwing out the baby with the bathwater. You are "penny wise and pound foolish."

You have your priorities mixed up.

146 posted on 05/04/2022 7:45:38 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: Fresh Wind
Yes, “soy boy” describes my acquaintance perfectly.

I've discussed this topic with others in the past, and it certainly seems as if something has taken much of the masculine out of modern males.

I've read quite a few articles that make me think it is the advent and acceptance of plastics to carry water and contain food.

Apparently some of the chemicals which leach out of plastic containers and conduits resemble human female hormones. It may very well be that plastics are slowly feminizing the world.

Not a good thing.

147 posted on 05/04/2022 8:05:16 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: hadit2here

Elon Musk expected to become Twitter’s temporary CEO once $44B acquisition closes:

https://www.foxbusiness.com/business-leaders/elon-musk-twitter-temporary-ceo-report

Suggested Twitter POA for Elon:

Step 1: Fire Twitter management team members & escort them
off Twitter campus/properties. T
Step 2: Move HQ out of California.
Step 3: Hold Jobs fairs and not on College Campuses.
Step 4: Hire Veterans, retired conservatives & at home
parents to enforce 1st amendment, 24/7 on Twitter.
Step 5: Fire any Twitter employee violating 1~4, above.
Step 6: Sue any person/organization interfering with 1~5.


148 posted on 05/05/2022 11:05:16 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Anyone, who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities.!" ~ (Voltaire)!!)
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