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Sailors allowed to move off USS George Washington after multiple suicides
yahoo ^ | 5-3-22 | Eleanor Watson

Posted on 05/04/2022 3:42:29 PM PDT by dynachrome

Eleanor Watson Tue, May 3, 2022, 12:21 PM·3 min read

The nuclear-powered aircraft carrier USS George Washington leaves the US naval base in Yokosuka, 60 kms south of Tokyo, for the last time for refueling and complex overhaul on May 18, 2015. / Credit: TORU YAMANAKA/AFP via Getty Images (TORU YAMANAKA/AFP via Getty Images) More than 200 sailors on the USS George Washington took the opportunity Monday to move off the ship to accommodations at a local installation. The move is part of the Navy's response to support the crew who lost three shipmates to suicide within one week in April.

In total, about 400 sailors are assigned bunks on the ship, the commander of U.S. Naval Forces, Atlantic Rear Admiral John Meier, told reporters Tuesday. The Navy has made accommodations for 260 of the 400 to move off the ship so far, and is working to accommodate all who want to live off the ship. snip

The estimated completion of the overhaul for the George Washington has slid to March 2023, which means that it will be roughly two years between when sailors moved aboard in April 2021 and the expected delivery date — which Meier said in hindsight is "probably a year too long" for the sailors to have been on the ship.

While the ship is undergoing the overhaul, a certain number of sailors are required aboard in order to provide ship security, run essential equipment, and maintain fire and flood watches.

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A long time in drydock without abreak.
1 posted on 05/04/2022 3:42:29 PM PDT by dynachrome
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To: dynachrome

Post about the suicides:

https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/4056290/posts


2 posted on 05/04/2022 3:42:54 PM PDT by dynachrome ("I will not be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.")
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To: dynachrome

Maybe they need more diversity training or transgender counselling or booster shots.


3 posted on 05/04/2022 3:48:52 PM PDT by Lurkinanloomin ( (Natural born citizens are born here of citizen parents)(Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: dynachrome

While the ship is undergoing the overhaul, a certain number of sailors are required aboard in order to provide ship security, run essential equipment, and maintain fire and flood watches.
- = - = -

And paint. Don’t forget painting.


4 posted on 05/04/2022 3:58:18 PM PDT by pa_dweller (Let's all go out for ice cream.)
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To: dynachrome

What the hell is going on on that ship?


5 posted on 05/04/2022 4:00:11 PM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: dynachrome

I work with a naval flight officer, he has served on carriers and stated that this is some of the worst duty for sailors. Stuck in port, living in a construction zone, located in an industrial area far from everything. Their main duty is cleaning up the mess the contractors leave at the end of the day.

I suspect poor leadership has a role as well. Someone, at some level, was not taking care of their sailors.


6 posted on 05/04/2022 4:04:11 PM PDT by drop 50 and fire for effect ("Work relentlessly, accomplish much, remain in the background, and be more than you seem.")
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To: pa_dweller

“And paint. Don’t forget painting.”

That never ends. Never.


7 posted on 05/04/2022 4:04:49 PM PDT by Carriage Hill (A society grows great when old men plant trees, in whose shade they know they will never sit.)
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To: dynachrome

Bttt.

5.56mm


8 posted on 05/04/2022 4:09:03 PM PDT by M Kehoe (Quid Pro Joe and the Ho need to go.)
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To: Vermont Lt

Sounds like it’s haunted.


9 posted on 05/04/2022 4:09:48 PM PDT by packagingguy
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To: dynachrome

Years ago, I read an extensive management article and one of the incidents was about a series of people quitting and some suicides. Then they moved the manager to another large area and there were more people quitting and committing suicide. They moved him again with similar results. (Can’t recall whether it was a business or military.) But the manager retired, and they were too late to the data to discover what it was that happened. But if it’s a management and personality problem there should be other means of discovering what’s going on. For example, just how many more transfer requests are being submitted here as compared with other similar situations? In large organizations when there are serious problems, and they aren’t fixed it’s always due to someone at the top who refuses to see or address the issue. For example, in one instance it was the boss’ son who had been given a position with high authority he didn’t deserve or know how to use. At another where there had been labor problems and high rates of resignations, I asked someone who had worked there and he said, “It’s because the management is evil. I mean, evil.” But he wouldn’t elaborate because the management at that company was so interrelated. Even so the top guys were fired at midnight on a weekday by their own relatives and ordered not to go back. A top manager from my facility was rousted out of bed and arrived at the facility to take over around eight on the following day. So just how bad were they? Apparently THAT bad.

My guess is there’s a captain who needs replacement. But he’s probably related to a top admiral who dotes on him.


10 posted on 05/04/2022 4:12:42 PM PDT by Gen.Blather (Wait! I said that out loud. Sorry.)
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I was wondering the same thing although no evidence spoken about it. Just a jump to conclusion but I’m surprised to see someone else thinking same thing.

Maybe it is an X-file.


11 posted on 05/04/2022 4:18:38 PM PDT by Beowulf9
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To: drop 50 and fire for effect
I am not sure if it is poor leadership or leaderships hands are tied. I hear from friends still serving that it is a nightmare leading this generation of Sailors.

The Navy has for over 30 years been taking the Chiefs and making them Junior Officers. They have counselors that bypass Chiefs and Chaplains. Chiefs have to be careful about getting to know their Sailors. Where it was once normal to know a lot about your Sailors life and family, now you have to be extremely careful and keep Sailors at an arms length, like an Officer.

You also have a generation for whom suicide is an acceptable act. A permanent solution to a short term problem. This generation has been convinced they are mentally f’ed up and suicide is a solution.

So it may well be poor leadership from the top and possibly at the enlisted level. But it may also be a systemic cultural issue with a generation raised on self-gratification. Also, just a thought, it was once believed suicide meant going to hell. With no God, there is no hell, so suicide becomes a viable option.

12 posted on 05/04/2022 4:21:42 PM PDT by OldGoatCPO (No Caitiff Choir of Angels will sing for me)
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To: dynachrome
The ship I was stationed on was in drydock for six months.
The ship's drab overall grey exterior/interior wasn't helpful.
13 posted on 05/04/2022 4:33:53 PM PDT by chief lee runamok (Anti-Socialist Derelict at Large)
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To: Vermont Lt

Too much time wasted on wokeness and not enough on leadership and training.


14 posted on 05/04/2022 4:34:23 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: pa_dweller

My ship was in dry dock. We worked normal hrs. Fewer hrs than when at sea. The city had built us barracks to eat and sleep in. I liked it.


15 posted on 05/04/2022 4:49:36 PM PDT by roving
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To: Gen.Blather
Perfectly dramatized in Band of Brothers by Lt. Norman "Foxhole" Dyke.
16 posted on 05/04/2022 4:55:07 PM PDT by Hebrews 11:6 ("This is Thy pleasure, that Thou art my joy")
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To: Hebrews 11:6

Band of Brothers is awesome. I watch it at least once a year.


17 posted on 05/04/2022 4:57:57 PM PDT by gitmo (If your theology doesn't become your biography, what good is i)
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To: pa_dweller

Do the chiefs still stand around with their coffee cups?

Dont wash a chiefs coffee cup...EVER.


18 posted on 05/04/2022 5:03:28 PM PDT by crz
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To: Lurkinanloomin

Maybe they need to rotate the crews.


19 posted on 05/04/2022 5:14:47 PM PDT by GingisK
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To: dynachrome

Multiple dry docs and refurbs under my belt. All single sailors and the duty sections were moved to either a floating barracks, barracks or hotels. Always! Living conditions on a boat in the yards are non-existent. I can’t believe they did this to these sailors.


20 posted on 05/04/2022 5:30:17 PM PDT by Mathews (It's all gravy, baby!)
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