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To: hardspunned

I’m reposting this from another thread because it explains what it is Russia wants from NATO and it explains what they actually mean when they call someone a NAZI. (Neither of these things are what the West interpreted them to be.)

This is a link to a Danish analyst speaking before the war on what it is the Russians want. They want to be equal to “NATO”. Not to European nations, 30 of which make up NATO. They view NATO as a US proxy, and they want to have their own sphere of influence which is NATO’s eaual. They want to be what they believe the US is, the controller of those thirty NATO countries, only the controller of the Russian version of NATO.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50q3bT87KFc

The link below is a Ukrainian who explains all those weird Nazi accusations. It turns out that Russians don’t mean by Nazi what we might think they mean. For the reasons he states, if anyone disagrees with them, even Jews, then those people are their “Nazis.” There’s a lot of information behind this and it’s worth a listen.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4WEBwsuQf0


11 posted on 05/07/2022 5:42:51 AM PDT by Gen.Blather (Wait! I said that out loud. Sorry.)
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To: Gen.Blather

Frankly a don’t give a rats behind what the commies in Russia want


23 posted on 05/07/2022 5:55:02 AM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: Gen.Blather
They view NATO as a US proxy, and they want to have their own sphere of influence which is NATO’s e[q]ual.

In reality, what the Russian Tsar (Putin) and his court wants, we cannot give them so they must TAKE IT! Vladimir Putin, the so successful former KGB Colonel, wants a new Russian Empire with the Warsaw Pact accessories! It is the DEADLY equivalent of a two year-old throwing a tantrum combined with the ever present Russian paranoia about existential threats!

Note please, the pattern of Putin's actions at the periphery of 'legal' Russia! In Obama's Administration was the active use of Russian troops and assets in the Caucuses (Armenia, Georgia, Azerbaijan) and then the preliminary attacks on Ukraine by pro-Russian separatists(!) in the east and Crimea. Remember the shoot-down of that other Malaysian Airliner in 2014?

Now in Biden's Administration, after the Afghanistan FIASCO, the thought must have been to 'seize the day' (carpe diem) as they knew that a 5 day campaign would merely get Russia a strongly worded letter, especially if Putin would guarantee certain legal matters involving the Biden Family affairs were kept quiet and profitable! Gee, if only Trump had not kept NATO training the Ukrainian military. Or reminding Europe that the bear could still draw blood!

31 posted on 05/07/2022 6:06:45 AM PDT by SES1066 (More & more it looks like Brandon's best decision was Kamala! UGH!)
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To: Gen.Blather

Just what sort of response were you expecting from resident CINOs?

I, for one, thank you for the references. They confirm what I already knew but was mostly anecdotal.


55 posted on 05/07/2022 7:59:50 AM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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