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The Only Relevant Question about Abortion: Get this one right, and the whole issue is solved
American Thinker ^ | 05/30/2022 | Charlie Johnston

Posted on 05/30/2022 8:25:43 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

It can be maddening and baffling to engage in debate with left-wing activists. Their love of ad hominem arguments and non sequiturs would make a sophist blush. Their stated principles shift during an argument like a kaleidoscope. That doesn't even begin to take into account their shrieking rage and cosplay costumes.

Yet on the abortion question, all their histrionics are designed to obscure the one fundamental question that must be answered before any further discussion can take place: is the fetus a human person or is he/she not? If he is, he is entitled to all the protections all other human persons have.

As a young lawyer riding the circuit in Illinois, Abraham Lincoln was often an enigma to his colleagues. He seemed frequently to concede too many points to his opponent, yet he prevailed. His genius was to find the fundamental issue, then grab hold of it like a bulldog with a rag, refusing to let go or be distracted from it. Pro-lifers should adopt Lincoln's strategy and hold fast to it.

Almost all the arguments abortion advocates advance are rhetorical variations of Three-Card Monte. The aim is to draw your attention away from where the action really is. Though they have a full set of tools of distraction, there is a primary argument, usually accompanied by three smaller ones. Each of these is facilitated by a consistent sleight-of-hand trick.

The big distraction is to call abortion a woman's "right." This both misunderstands what a right is and misapplies it to the specific case. Under natural law theory (which is the basis of our Bill of Rights), all rights precede the existence of the state. Rights are endowed to each person by virtue of his existence — and the state has no authority over them.

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Wisconsin
KEYWORDS: abortion; ketanjibrownjackson; paulryan; personhood; plannedparenthood; righttolife; roevswade; scotus; wisconsin
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1 posted on 05/30/2022 8:25:43 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind
THE THREE DISTRATIONS OF PRO-ABORTIONISTS:

1) All children should be wanted and have a comfortable life. If your answer to that problem is to kill those who are unwanted or impoverished, why not solve all poverty and hardship with an assault rifle? The answer is obvious: we don't do that to actual persons. Current circumstances are never a completely reliable guide to future prospects, as Sen. Tim Scott (R-S.C.) pointedly told Treasury secretary Janet Yellen.

2) The second distraction is the undue burden it places on an unwilling mother. If killing a person is a remedy for an undue burden, we can clear out the nursing homes and orphanages with the above-referenced assault rifle. But we don't do that to actual persons.

3) The third major point is that having a child would adversely impact a woman's career prospects and options. That is an argument from interest. If we can kill people because they threaten our interests, a hitman would be a respectable part of the service economy. We don't do that to actual people.

All of these arguments are decimated when the focus is on the actual, vitally relevant question: the humanity of the unborn.


2 posted on 05/30/2022 8:28:40 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind
There is a moment of "birth" and a moment of death.

In between, there is a human being with 42 chromosomes, an individual, distinct from the mother....protected by the mother....until it has grown enough to adapt to the world outside the mother's protective womb.

3 posted on 05/30/2022 8:32:57 PM PDT by Sacajaweau ( )
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To: Taxman

Ping


4 posted on 05/30/2022 8:33:07 PM PDT by Taxman (SAVE AMERICA!)
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To: SeekAndFind

You would thinks so, but the leftists will agree that an abortion ends the life of a real human being. They cherish their right to kill freely over the humanity of the alive unborn ... who have been proven able to learn by at least the 24th week in their developing life, sixteen weeks before they are to be born. The evil is so deep in the leftists and liberals (read demon rat supporters) that they acknowledge what they are disenfranchising ... and they support the murder for convenience.


5 posted on 05/30/2022 8:34:50 PM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: Sacajaweau

“In between” birth an death? We are discussing the alive sensing human beings BEFORE birth.


6 posted on 05/30/2022 8:37:30 PM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: SeekAndFind

Don’t assume his fender… It’s Madam !!! Roflol


7 posted on 05/30/2022 8:43:51 PM PDT by Pikachu_Dad ("the media are selling you a line of soap)
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To: Sacajaweau

and what, specifically, is that “moment” of birth? We need a legal definition of it so we can start charging people with murder. It must be a specific “moment”, not some trimester garbage.


8 posted on 05/30/2022 8:45:52 PM PDT by bankwalker (Repeal the 19th ...)
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To: MHGinTN

It is increasingly obvious that the slaughter of the unborn is a preface to the death of hundreds of millions in satisfaction of global, environmental principles.

Abortion is one tool. I
Injections of genetic bioweapons is another. II
Stand down in the face of incited violence is a third. III
War and its ultimate weapons are the final solution. IV
The four horses of the apocalypse are upon us.

None of this is by accident or beyond willful causation.
Satan is in control. Our abandonment of God has given the evil one authority over us.
Build your ark!


9 posted on 05/30/2022 8:53:03 PM PDT by Louis Foxwell (Seek refuge in Christ. He is your sword and shield.)
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To: bankwalker

https://www.princeton.edu/~prolife/articles/wdhbb.html


10 posted on 05/30/2022 8:53:40 PM PDT by Sacajaweau ( )
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To: Louis Foxwell

Ark? Hah! I’ve got flight passport! First transformed, then snatched up to meet the Lord in the air.


11 posted on 05/30/2022 8:56:46 PM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: SeekAndFind

The article was wordy and jumbled. News flash. Life begins at conception. Everyone, yes, all seven billion of us, knows it. Freaks who support abortion are influenced by bad, spiritual forces beyond the control of freaks. Pity the freaks. They really are lost. Proof: they think abortion is fine.


12 posted on 05/30/2022 8:57:03 PM PDT by Falconspeed ("Keep your fears to yourself, but share your courage with others." Robert Louis Stevenson.)
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To: MHGinTN

One of the necessary prerequisites for genocide is the dehumanization of the victims, which is exactly what liberals do with the unborn.


13 posted on 05/30/2022 8:57:04 PM PDT by allblues (God is neither a Republican nor a Democrat but Satan is definitely a Democrat)
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To: Sacajaweau

Thank you ... but I was thinking more of a “legal” definition of the “moment”.


14 posted on 05/30/2022 8:58:24 PM PDT by bankwalker (Repeal the 19th ...)
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To: allblues

Margaret Sanger swept away black folks’ reqasoning, convincing them that the unborn are not huuman yet so killing alive sensing black unborn babies is not really DISENFRANCHISING THEM.


15 posted on 05/30/2022 8:59:27 PM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: SeekAndFind
Which is why everyone should support S.99 - Life at Conception Act of 2021 sponsored by Sen. Rand Paul who introduced it as early as at least 2013.

That would answer the question legally.

16 posted on 05/30/2022 9:11:33 PM PDT by TigersEye (I await the return of The Great MAGA King)
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To: SeekAndFind

The only relevant question to ask all pro-choicers is this.....

DID YOU TELL BLACK AND POOR WOMEN THE TRUTH ABOUT THE RACISM OF THE ABORTION/BIRTH CONTROL MOVEMENT ????

THE BLACK CEO OF PLANNED PARENTHOOD ADMITTED TO THE WORLD THAT SANGER AND HER THUGS WERE RACIST...FOR YEARS....NEW YORK TIMES APRIL 17TH 2021 OP-ED PAGE.......

If you didn’t tell them the truth, they should have the right to sue you and all pro-chpicers for fraud, hate crimes and violence against women......


17 posted on 05/30/2022 9:18:47 PM PDT by Hambone 1934 (Dems love playing Nazis.....The republicans love helping them)
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To: SeekAndFind

There is a simple 6 word question that shuts down any pro-abortion argument:

“Does abortion stop a beating heart?”


18 posted on 05/30/2022 9:26:13 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (I love my country. It's my government that I hate.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Every baby is a member of a family, a daughter or a son to a mother and a father, from conception forward.


19 posted on 05/30/2022 9:28:04 PM PDT by Arcadian Empire (The Baric-Daszak-Fauci spike protein, by itself, is deadly.)
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To: SeekAndFind
... the one fundamental question that must be answered before any further discussion can take place: is the fetus a human person or is he/she not?

The liberals don't care whether it's a human person or not. They want it dead.

20 posted on 05/30/2022 9:31:42 PM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham ("God is a spirit, and man His means of walking on the earth.")
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