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Senator in 2010 deposition: 13-year-olds can consent to sex
News 8: Tulsa ^

Posted on 06/26/2022 7:16:51 AM PDT by LouAvul

Edited on 06/26/2022 12:52:56 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

OKLAHOMA CITY (AP) — Before he became a leading voice for conservative causes on Capitol Hill, U.S. Senator James Lankford spent more than a decade as the director of youth programming at the Falls Creek Baptist Conference Center, a sprawling campground about 80 miles south of Oklahoma City that attracts more than 50,000 campers in grades six through 12 each year.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2022; bidenvoters; jamesinhofe; jameslankford; jiminhofe; lankford; oklahoma; seanmurphy; ussenate
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To: LouAvul

I must admit that for years I thought that Lankford was a good guy.


21 posted on 06/26/2022 7:58:59 AM PDT by matthew fuller (Murrill McLean Award, for cowardice by a Policeman, shooting of 12 lb. Mini-Dachshund. Danville, VA)
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To: LouAvul

There are always three answers to any yes/no question: yes, no, and the context of your question is too narrow to contain the answer.

Are you still beating your wife?

Can a 13-year-old girl consent to sex?

If he was stupid enough to give a yes/no answer to that question he’s too stupid to be a politician.

Can she say “yes”? Yes.

Can she give legal consent? No.

Is she mature enough to be able to give informed consent? I have no idea. It may be that she is. It may be that she’s not. I’m not sure it’s relevant, given that he was asked that question in a legal context.


22 posted on 06/26/2022 7:59:15 AM PDT by jdege
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To: alexander_busek

Perhaps. It was years before his political career, so he was stating a belief, imho. Having been raised baptist, I know there’s a strong agreement that 12 or so is what they call “the age of accountability.”

So, he was saying “can.”

I’d bet money.


23 posted on 06/26/2022 8:01:10 AM PDT by xzins (Retired US Army chaplain. Support our troops by praying for their victory. )
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To: Presbyterian Reporter

🎯🎯🎯


24 posted on 06/26/2022 8:02:01 AM PDT by xzins (Retired US Army chaplain. Support our troops by praying for their victory. )
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To: LouAvul

He will gain more Democrat cross-over votes for that position than he’ll lose Republican votes. Democrats are all about every type of sex, any age, 24x7, sex, sex, sex, Sex, Sex, SEX, SEX and MORE SEX. That is all they ever think about.


25 posted on 06/26/2022 8:02:43 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (Wanting to make America great isn’t an insult unless you’re trying to make it worse! ULTRAMAGA!!)
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To: texas booster

In most places there is now a “two year” rule that keeps teens from being charged with statutory rape for otherwise consensual sex.

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In 1990 my son impregnated his girl friend, her father was in an uproar (understandably) and wanted my son charged with statutory rape The police changed his mind by pointing out to him that while the kids were both 15 years old that she was actually about 6 months older than my son.

He wound up coercing her into an abortion.


26 posted on 06/26/2022 8:03:05 AM PDT by Graybeard58
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To: Graybeard58
He wound up coercing her into an abortion.

The father coerced her into an abortion?

27 posted on 06/26/2022 8:08:58 AM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: LouAvul
Consent with whom? Deposition was part of discovery for a civil case where the defendant was a minor and only two years older than the alleged victim, but the article makes Lankford's statement seem more general and equates that case with one involving sexual assault by an adult.

That said, laws need to be passed to explicitly make camps civilly and even criminally liable for any sexual contact going on among the kids, regardless of "consent" or not. Otherwise it is the adults that are consenting, even if they aren't a part of the contact itself.

28 posted on 06/26/2022 8:21:22 AM PDT by Right Wing Vegan (Pot legalization licenses every degenerate pothead piece of trash to force drug neighbors.)
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To: apillar

“””I can pretty much guarantee that the vast majority of these 13 year old girls weren’t being forced.”””


And that is what Lankford said in the deposition. Namely, an underage girl could give consent.

Then it seems most statutory laws look to see how old the boy or man is.

Then it gets real messy when say the girl is 12 and the boy is 13.


29 posted on 06/26/2022 8:26:02 AM PDT by Presbyterian Reporter
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To: LouAvul

Howdy Doody Lankford has been in way over his head for a very long time. How he got to be a US spinator is beyond me. Anointed by tom coburn I guess. Coburn lost me completely when he referred to dumbobama as his “friend”.


30 posted on 06/26/2022 8:48:45 AM PDT by Sequoyah101 (Politicians are only marginally good at one thing, being politicians. Otherwise they are fools.)
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To: LouAvul

Predators hiding behind their “religious” mantle.


31 posted on 06/26/2022 9:02:44 AM PDT by Wuli
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To: kiryandil

The father coerced her into an abortion?

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Yes after my wife and I offered to pay all expenses related to the pregnancy and delivery or adopt the child or let his daughter and grand child live with us. He was adamant that she get an abortion. After I found out that he was Catholic, I went and talked to his Priest and told him the entire story and asked him if he could help and he did try. The daughter did not want an abortion and her dad made the appointment, took her to it and she was more afraid of him than the abortion. She wanted the baby especially with our help. It was an awful time for all concerned.


32 posted on 06/26/2022 9:07:01 AM PDT by Graybeard58
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To: LouAvul

Old enough to bleed old enough to butcher.

Senator James Lankford

A lot of sick sob’s in D.C.


33 posted on 06/26/2022 9:26:26 AM PDT by Vaduz ( )
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To: LouAvul

The word “could” leaves things wide open. Anyone who says a 13 year old could never possibly give consent is a fool or a liar or both. Lankford answered the question honestly as asked, despite his erstwhile political shortcomings. Oh, and screw the AP.


34 posted on 06/26/2022 9:31:18 AM PDT by Fester Chugabrew ("Poets have been mysteriously silent on the subject of cheese." -G.K. Chesterton)
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To: LouAvul

Seems we need to arm 13 year olds to blow away sexual predators like U.S. Senator James Lankford who try to sexually assault them.


35 posted on 06/26/2022 9:33:05 AM PDT by CodeToad (Arm up! They Have!)
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To: Graybeard58
All you (and I) need to know about this man is that he's a grandfather who is willing to kill a grandchild.

And he did.

36 posted on 06/26/2022 9:46:27 AM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: LouAvul

“It’s unclear whether Lankford, who has no formal legal training, was aware of the legal age of consent at the time of his deposition.”

So what is the point of dredging this up?


37 posted on 06/26/2022 10:26:06 AM PDT by Twotone (While one may vote oneself into socialism one has to shoot oneself out of it.)
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To: apillar

Let’s not talk common sense.

People forget that in the not to distance past.

A fair number of states had 12yoa consent laws and more had 15yoa consent laws.

Now that a lot have 18yoa consent laws.

People forget that some people have sex a lot younger.


38 posted on 06/26/2022 10:27:55 AM PDT by riverrunner
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To: LouAvul
Not so long ago right here in the Good 'ole USA it was common for very young girls to get married.

Jerry Lee Lewis (born September 29, 1935) is an American singer, songwriter, and pianist. Nicknamed the Killer, he has been described as "rock n' roll's first great wild man and one of the most influential pianists of the 20th century."[8] A pioneer of rock and roll and rockabilly music, Lewis made his first recordings in 1956 at Sun Records in Memphis. "Crazy Arms" sold 300,000 copies in the South, but it was his 1957 hit "Whole Lotta Shakin' Goin' On" that shot Lewis to fame worldwide. He followed this with the major hits "Great Balls of Fire", "Breathless", and "High School Confidential". However, his rock and roll career faltered in the wake of his marriage to Myra Gale Brown, his 13-year-old cousin.

39 posted on 06/26/2022 10:34:23 AM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again,")
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To: LouAvul
I knew a 13 y.o.( who looked 18) dating a 19 y.o. who already had a kid prior to meeting the 19 y.o. - yes, I thought the guy was waaaaaay out of line and a perv- but she already was a single mom at 13, so dont tell me 13 y.o's cant consent to sex.

Can every 13 y.o. make these decisions? - NO! 13, is too young for the average girl to make these decisions. but some are old enough at 13 to know whats what.

used to be, 13 was a good age to start looking for a husband.

40 posted on 06/26/2022 11:30:42 AM PDT by Ikeon (A man who would cut off his junk would gladly help someone cut off yours. )
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