Posted on 08/28/2022 10:05:28 AM PDT by Drango
Aug 26 (Reuters) - A U.S. appeals court on Friday upheld a ban on smoking in federally subsidized public housing.
The D.C. Circuit Court of Appeals said the Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD) properly enacted a 2016 rule requiring state and local public housing agencies to ban cigarettes, cigars and pipes inside housing units and indoor common areas, and outside within 25 feet of those spaces.
Six tenants and a smokers' rights group, the New York City Citizens Lobbying Against Smoker Harassment ("NYC Clash"), challenged the ban, known as the Smoke Free Rule.
They said it improperly invaded their privacy and violated due process by preventing them from engaging in lawful activity -- using tobacco -- inside the home.
But in Friday's 2-0 decision, Chief Judge Sri Srinivasan said HUD provided "considerable" evidence that the rule helped protect residents against the health risks of secondhand smoke, prevent fires and reduce property maintenance costs.
"The department adequately substantiated its rationales for the rule and did not act arbitrarily and capriciously in promulgating it," the judge wrote. ~snip
(Excerpt) Read more at reuters.com ...
If you need assistance for housing, you don't need to have an expensive habit/addiction.
Good luck enforcing that.
Its about govt control over what people do where they live, its not about health or finances.
Its setting precedents. So they can get future precedents to limit and ban more things you can do.
They want to expand it so they can control more in places they don’t own.
The govt hands out gobs of money to people that dont even live here and will keep doimg so, they dont care about the money.
That’s right. Tell blacks what they can’t do. That would be better than the Walmart fights.
Don’t want the government telling you what to do, don’t take their money.
When you suckle at the government teat just remember...they get to make the rules. You want a free ride? Be prepared to pay the piper.
Plenty of people do without all but the necessities expressly so they can afford to pay for a home of their own. If you can afford cigarettes, recreational drugs, i-Phones, 3-figure Nike sneakers, hair weaves, tattoos, or having children with someone with whom you do not co-habitate, you shouldn’t be eligible for government-assisted housing.
But, pot and meth and all that rot is OK... (spit)
The government needs to just get out of... almost everything.
Actually I can see some blue city mayor forming an illegal smokers strike force. Pay their wife or other relative a high six figure salary with the usual government benefits to be a figurehead. Then the strike force team will use the same training/techniques/gear as the new IRS Field Agents.
As we’ve seen since the advent of the camera phone and the goal of certain citizens seeking fame on socialist media, they will become paid informants for the Illegal Smokers Strike Force. Very doable.
yes all hail the tyrannical bureaucracy!
just remember as the green new deal is pushed down our throats public housing will become much more common
as people will increasingly not be able to afford the new green energy
always stay on the side of freedom whether you agree with what people do with that freedom or not
BS. Tax dollars should come with strings.
Let’s set aside my view that tobacco should’ve been banned for sale in the USA at least by the nineties. Smoking means higher costs for upkeep of the property. You want to smoke indoors? Buy your own place to live.
I have mixed feelings about this.
The “addiction” is not going away—residents will either violate the rules or just go to places where they can smoke.
The government approach “we are doing this to you for your own good” is a super-dangerous slippery slope.
Example—should “crazy right wing conspiracy theorists” be banned from public housing if they post things on the Internet that .gov does not approve?
Again. Take the King's Coin, do The King's bidding.
I smoke Cuban cigars.
They are banned for sale in the United States.
It is amazing how the “impossible” is made possible with a little human ingenuity.
If you do not have ownership (property rights) you do not have smoker’s rights.
If you want to smoke inside, buy your own house.
Be careful what you wish for—collecting Social Security is “collecting the King’s coin”.
Actually—deferring income in a 401K is also “collecting the King’s coin”.
“Again. Take the King’s Coin, do The King’s bidding.”
The king takes my money but won’t do my bidding.
I can’t wait to see the residents’ faces when not far from now they will find that their thermostats don’t work above a certain number in the winter and below a certain number in the summer.
Probably something like 65 in the winter and 80 in the summer.
And their lights go out at 10:00 PM sharp.
All brought to you by those wonderful people who tell you very loud and clearly that they are the only saviors of democracy.
Cry for them? No, they voted, many more than once, for dear old Joe, the white knight who will save us all from the cruel Orange Man.
ts about govt control over what people do where they live, its not about health or finances.
Its setting precedents. So they can get future precedents to limit and ban more things you can do.
They want to expand it so they can control more in places they don’t own.
The govt hands out gobs of money to people that dont even live here and will keep doimg so, they dont care about the money.
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