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Nuclear War With Russia? No, Thanks; Can we please get peace negotiations started before world goes up in a flash?
American Conservative ^ | September 23 2022 | Rod Dreher

Posted on 09/28/2022 8:27:15 PM PDT by NeverCheney

The Washington Post is leading tonight with a piece about how Biden is warning Russia not to use battlefield nukes in Ukraine. …

Gosh, you think?! My God. Is there nobody eager to step in and try to get Ukraine and Russia to the peace table?

It's good that Russia got its nose bloodied hard, but can we please put a stop to this before it gets out of hand? At the UN yesterday, Russian foreign minister Sergei Lavrov said that unnamed Western countries that are militarily backing Ukraine -- that would include the United States -- are seen by Russia as part of this war. I, for one, would rather not risk nuclear war over Donbas.

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I’m old enough to remember when Bob Dole , running for VP in 1976, accused the “Democrat Party” of getting us into all our wars. Since then, George W Bush ended that Democrat monopoly by invading Iraq, but it looks like Biden and the modern Democrats are looking to reclaim their party’s reputation as a war-starter - and the terrifying possibility is that it could go nuclear this time.

The politicians in DC don’t seem very frightened of nuclear war. Is it because there are luxurious fallout shelters for them and their families? The only folks who’ll get radiation poisoning will be us little people, who will have nowhere to shelter?

1 posted on 09/28/2022 8:27:15 PM PDT by NeverCheney
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To: NeverCheney

Trump offered, I hear.


2 posted on 09/28/2022 8:31:07 PM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: NeverCheney

Where is the massive, well-stocked, underground fortress that our political leaders get to hide out in while the nuclear bombs rain down on the rest of us?

I’ve read that at least one of these nuclear shelters for politicians is in West Virginia. But I’ll bet there are quite a few around the country. This much is sure: It’s a big club and you and I aren’t in it.


3 posted on 09/28/2022 8:33:26 PM PDT by NeverCheney
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To: ifinnegan

Where is the massive, well-stocked, underground fortress that our political leaders get to hide out in while the nuclear bombs rain down on the rest of us?

I’ve read that at least one of these nuclear shelters for politicians is in West Virginia. But I’ll bet there are quite a few around the country.


4 posted on 09/28/2022 8:34:53 PM PDT by NeverCheney
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To: ifinnegan
Trump offered, I hear.

Dreher is big-time never-Trumper, so I don't think he'd be interested.

5 posted on 09/28/2022 8:36:20 PM PDT by rhinohunter (“Being woke means you’re a loser” — Donald J. Trump)
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To: NeverCheney

Some foreigners want the USA to bow to Russian nuclear blackmail and give the Russians everything that they will demand in the future.


6 posted on 09/28/2022 8:38:39 PM PDT by familyop ("For they that sleep with dogs, shall rise with fleas" (John Webster, "The White Devil" 1612).)
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To: familyop

Neocons want war with Russia at any cost.
USA has nothing to “give” to Russia.
We don’t own Ukraine. We can’t give what we do not own.


7 posted on 09/28/2022 8:47:41 PM PDT by entropy12 (Trump & MAGA are the only road to kep USA viable.)
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To: NeverCheney

What a crock, we don’t surrender to nuclear threats, if we did, then it is all over for us and the world.

Putin is trying to normalize nuclear weapons for regular wars of conquest and invasions of other countries, in other words, introduce nuclear weapons as a normal weapon for attacking other nations, which would open it for Red China and N. Korea, and in time Iran.


8 posted on 09/28/2022 8:51:32 PM PDT by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: NeverCheney
Yeah, I am actually holding out for this, personally:


9 posted on 09/28/2022 8:56:31 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: ansel12

“ hat a crock, we don’t surrender to nuclear threats, if we did, then it is all over for us and the world.”

You’re a maniac

Reagan never went to war against Russia because he didn’t want nuclear war. Unfortunately, after Reagan came numbskull, bloodthirsty neocons. You sound like one of them


10 posted on 09/28/2022 8:58:04 PM PDT by NeverCheney
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To: rhinohunter
Trump offered, I hear.

Yeah, you'd think a smart conservative might have put that in his screed. And not only that, here's what-of all people- Noam Chomsky said about Trump last May:

Noam Chomsky: Trump the ‘One Western Statesman of Stature’ Pushing Peace in Ukraine

11 posted on 09/28/2022 8:59:25 PM PDT by PerConPat (A politician is an animal which can sit on a fence and yet keep both ears to the ground. - Mencken)
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To: NeverCheney

No need for name-calling.

No one is attacking Russia, no one is interested in attacking Russia, and Russia is not being invaded.

Reagan threatened Russia with total annihilation if they used nukes on us.

Russia is threatening us and NATO with nuclear weapons if we don’t do as they order, think about that, not to save mother Russia, but as part of normal invasions of other countries.


12 posted on 09/28/2022 9:04:55 PM PDT by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: NeverCheney
Exactly what is the theoretical deal that anyone truly believes would be acceptable to both sides at this point? Because I sure as hell don't see one.

As best as I can see it, the outcome certain parties would be pushing for would be a ceasefire "in place", which of course would essentially give to Russia exactly what it wants. Which is probably that's exactly what Russia would be pushing for. "Let's just stop the fighting, then we can talk". They'd talk forever, because just talking is a victory for them.

13 posted on 09/28/2022 9:06:27 PM PDT by Bruce Campbells Chin
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin

https://amgreatness.com/2022/09/28/trump-offers-to-broker-peace-deal-between-russia-and-ukraine-to-avoid-world-war-iii/

Trump Offers to Broker Peace Deal Between Russia and Ukraine to Avoid ‘World War III’

Former President Donald Trump on Wednesday offered his services to “head up” a group to help negotiate a deal between Ukraine and Russia following the likely deliberate explosions that took out both of Russia’s gas pipelines to Europe. “The entire world is at stake,” Trump said.

The former president also claimed that the Russian invasion of Ukraine would not have happened if he were still in office.


14 posted on 09/28/2022 9:10:28 PM PDT by NeverCheney
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To: ansel12

https://amgreatness.com/category/news/

Trump Offers to Broker Peace Deal Between Russia and Ukraine to Avoid ‘World War III’

Former President Donald Trump on Wednesday offered his services to “head up” a group to help negotiate a deal between Ukraine and Russia following the likely deliberate explosions that took out both of Russia’s gas pipelines to Europe. “The entire world is at stake,” Trump said.

The former president also claimed that the Russian invasion of Ukraine would not have happened if he were still in office.


15 posted on 09/28/2022 9:11:39 PM PDT by NeverCheney
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin

“They’d talk forever”

As Churchill said “jaw jaw is better than war war”. And it’s especially better than nuclear war.

I don’t want my family frying in a nuclear exchange over some territory in Eastern Ukraine.


16 posted on 09/28/2022 9:14:36 PM PDT by NeverCheney
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To: NeverCheney

Trump doesn’t like the nuke threat either.

Putin has been threatening nuclear war since the first day of the invasion, Trump is sick of it.

As Trump said “I LISTENED TO HIM CONSTANTLY USING THE N WORD , THAT’S THE N WORD, AND HE’S CONSTANTLY USING IT. THE NUCLEAR WORD”

“YOU SHOULD SAY LOOK , IF YOU MENTION THAT WORD, ONE MORE TIME, WE’RE GOING TO SEND THEM OVER (nuke subs) AND WE’LL BE COASTING BACK AND FORTH UP AND DOWN YOUR COAST. YOU CAN’T LET THIS TRAGEDY CONTINUE. YOU CAN’T LET THESE THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE DIE. IT’S GOING TO BE HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS AND MAYBE MILLIONS OF PEOPLE BY THE TIME IT ENDS.


17 posted on 09/28/2022 9:16:05 PM PDT by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: ansel12

Unlike you , Trump wants a peace agreement. Unlike you, Trump doesn’t want World War III over some sliver of Eastern Ukraine.

Unlike you, Trump is not a maniac warmonger


18 posted on 09/28/2022 9:19:45 PM PDT by NeverCheney
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To: NeverCheney

Unlike you, Trump is sick of Putin’s endless nuclear war threats and Like Reagan, Trump wants to threaten Putin and make Putin drop the nuke bluff.


19 posted on 09/28/2022 9:22:53 PM PDT by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: ansel12

Trump said he wants a peace deal. Unlike you. You want war. Nuclear war. Are you really a low IQ fool or do you just play one of Freerepublic?


20 posted on 09/28/2022 9:24:52 PM PDT by NeverCheney
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