Posted on 10/09/2022 5:47:50 AM PDT by JonPreston
NATO isn’t forcibly annexing sovereign countries. They aren’t Russia, after all.
It may come as a surprise but some countries actually want to join NATO. I don’t understand why, like Putin, you have such a problem with national sovereignty.
Simple yet a little snide. How one defines freedom and tyranny is the meat of the discussion. Your response has all the depth of a marketing slogan, for having sidestepped the NATO-Climate Change nexus about which I inquired.
Here's a way to parse the slogan. Are you as a Canadian generally free or under some degree of tyranny from the Trudeau government, as some of us watched the Canadian truckers' protest and wondered?
As an American, I will testify that I feel generally free, but find the current administration acting more tyrannical as time goes by. Ergo I oppose it because I can.
As to both the Ukraine and Russia, I think both have and continue to act in tyrannical ways, and I "support" neither. Choosing which is a supposedly lesser tyranny from the relatively comfortable surroundings of Canada and the United States does nothing to resolve the war. Another comment on this thread noted the war will be ended when one side wins and the other loses. I suggest this is also so for freedom versus tyranny.
If you think about it the billions we're giving to Ukraine are actually just borrowed debt. The US Gov't issues T-Bills (more national debt), bought by the Chinese Commies. We get the cash from the ChiComs and then turn around and give the money to the Ukrainians.
I wonder how much of this money going to Ukraine actually makes it onto the battlefield in the form of weapons, ammo and other military supplies. How much is going into the pockets of corrupt Ukrainian officials and how much is coming back to the US in the form of kickbacks to corrupt American officials and corporate executives?
I am not being disingenuous. Stepping aside from the many points you've ignored when I put them to you, I answer this above.
NATO is expansionist, aggressive and has a military presence in a non-NATO nation. It represents a number of nuclear-armed powers, including the United States, Britain and France. Of course, Russia and China and others also possess nuclear arsenals. So NATO need not "invade" to attack, as it did not "invade" Serbia per se. Bombings from afar is among the options, is it not?
Ergo, when you ask the question AS YOU ASK IT, the fallacy is revealed. Invading Russia? Not the only form of attack. Economic warfare rages now with the many tranches of sanctions, does it not? So, the "credible threat" of a NATO invasion into Russia is only a part of the hypothetical "war games" the world is playing. I'd venture to say that NATO which happily bombed Serbia will never bomb Russia in like manner. So, no is the answer to your question. Russia probably does not see an "invasion" by NATO as a "credible threat." But a nuclear exchange after much heated rhetoric? Yeah, that's a credible danger. And all sides are feeling that very credible danger. Or as Biden said, "two words...."
The rest of the world that isn't the globalist West will see that the TRUE aggressors [the neocons in the Swamp and in Brussels] don't want peace - only endless war, and endless expansion of NATO.
That would seal his election.
Bottom line is you have a seriously corrupt Ukrainian Government and Likewise the Biden Admin.........nothing good is going to come of that and both of their pockets will be full of cash flowing into Ukraine.
It is good. Mention peace and they get very angry.
It's the Biden regime, neocons, Victoria Nuland and the British a-holes that want to keep this proxy war with Russia going, foolishly thinking they can come up with some kind of Hail Mary to win it.
It’s not Ukrainians running this war.
Not much to talk about until Russia pulls all its troops out of Ukraine.
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