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To: SeekAndFind
Henry Kissinger is still alive. But he's 99. I don't think he can fly to a country in Eastern Europe right now. But he can probably propose a deal. Russia gets to keep Crimea. Ukraine pledges to remain neutral. Russia withdraws troops from occupied territories of Ukraine (not Crimea).

The war will end.

4 posted on 10/31/2022 8:57:55 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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RE: Russia gets to keep Crimea. Ukraine pledges to remain neutral. Russia withdraws troops from occupied territories of Ukraine (not Crimea).

So, what happens to the Donbas regions?

What you’re describing is essentially the status quo BEFORE Russia invaded last February.


5 posted on 10/31/2022 8:59:30 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: MinorityRepublican

that would be what they all agreed upon in 2014 and signed documents.


8 posted on 10/31/2022 9:07:31 PM PDT by davidb56
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To: MinorityRepublican
Ukraine pledges to remain neutral.

Not joining NATO is an easy concession, but I seriously doubt they would accept any treaty that prevents them from establishing military alliances with other nations. That would essentially be giving up their sovereignty, and invite another invasion down the road. I expect they will receive significant security guaranties from the west for a period while they rearm and establish alliances.

36 posted on 10/31/2022 9:56:39 PM PDT by ETCM (“There is no security, no safety, in the appeasement of evil.” — Ronald Reagan)
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To: MinorityRepublican

That ship sailed in February. What are you guys smoking?


48 posted on 10/31/2022 10:12:13 PM PDT by NorseViking
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To: MinorityRepublican
The war will end.

Except that it won't. Comrade Putin wants the whole hog and more.

89 posted on 11/01/2022 4:04:31 AM PDT by Timber Rattler ("To hold a pen is to be at war." --Voltaire)
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To: MinorityRepublican

kissinger already proposed a deal...


102 posted on 11/01/2022 4:52:42 AM PDT by Sacajaweau ( )
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Ukraine pledges to remain neutral.

Ukraine was just invaded by Russia. Some large percentage of its population has been killed and its infrastructure destroyed. How could it ever be neutral with regards to its obvious enemy?

Neutrality was a reasonable request in February, but it seems a bit silly now.

103 posted on 11/01/2022 4:58:05 AM PDT by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: MinorityRepublican
"Henry Kissinger is still alive. But he's 99. I don't think he can fly to a country in Eastern Europe right now. But he can probably propose a deal. Russia gets to keep Crimea. Ukraine pledges to remain neutral. Russia withdraws troops from occupied territories of Ukraine (not Crimea)."

The first thing Henry said when he rolled up to the mic (at WEF, no less) was "The dividing line should be a return to the status quo ante."

The discussion here at the time, was how disappointed the Putlims were! "Waaah, Kissinger wants Putlim to withdraw back to the existing borders." LOFL.

127 posted on 11/01/2022 6:53:55 AM PDT by StAnDeliver (Tanned, rested, and ready.)
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