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Russia U-turn on Ukraine grain shipments –rejoins deal
SC Morning Post ^
| 11/2/2022
| AFP
Posted on 11/02/2022 7:44:50 AM PDT by Alter Kaker
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Ukraine called Putin's bluff, and once again the Russians have egg on their faces. Sad!
To: Alter Kaker
The difference is ships will be checked. You forgot that part.
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posted on
11/02/2022 7:47:26 AM PDT
by
dforest
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To: dforest
Not in the article, but if true, so what? Generally you want to inspect stuff going to war zones, not ships leaving war zones.
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posted on
11/02/2022 7:49:32 AM PDT
by
Alter Kaker
(Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
To: Alter Kaker
After the Ukes British sea drone attack on the Russian fleet involved in the transport, they called off the deal. The retard Ukes were brought to heel by Erdogan and Putin.
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posted on
11/02/2022 7:51:15 AM PDT
by
DesertRhino
(Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up..)
To: Alter Kaker
It’ll include inbound ships, and the outbound will be checked for those Evinrude unmanned drones.
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posted on
11/02/2022 7:52:53 AM PDT
by
DesertRhino
(Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up..)
To: DesertRhino
After the Ukes British sea drone attack on the Russian fleet involved in the transport, they called off the deal. After the attack on the Russian fleet, the Ukrainians continued to export grain and ignored the threats of the Russians, and grain exports went up.
The Russians then had to decide whether to try to attack civilian freighters and look even worse, or back down. Guess what? They backed down. Sad!
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posted on
11/02/2022 7:53:22 AM PDT
by
Alter Kaker
(Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
To: Alter Kaker
Because the truth is the truth. That is why.
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posted on
11/02/2022 7:54:58 AM PDT
by
dforest
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To: DesertRhino
Turkey gave Russia some kind of acceptable security guarantee…prob related to inspecting ships for illicit weapons smuggling.
Turkey gets most of the grain so had a big stake in resolving the problem caused when Ukes and their handlers used the humanitarian corridor deal to mask an attack on Crimea. An attack that left Erdogan with egg on his face.
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posted on
11/02/2022 7:56:31 AM PDT
by
silverleaf
(“Freedom ultimately means the right of other people to do things that you disagree with”. T. Sowell )
To: silverleaf
An attack that left Erdogan with egg on his face.I'm pretty sure the Admiral Makarov got the worst end of the deal. :-)
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posted on
11/02/2022 8:03:19 AM PDT
by
Alter Kaker
(Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
To: Alter Kaker
You mean the ship parked at the dock where it’s been since before the attack?
Stop with the disinformation …it’s beyond foolish now
Minesweeper took a few hits but minesweepers are built for that
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posted on
11/02/2022 8:07:33 AM PDT
by
silverleaf
(“Freedom ultimately means the right of other people to do things that you disagree with”. T. Sowell )
To: silverleaf
The guarantee Erdogan probably gave putin was that if the latter touched one of the grain ships, Turkey would go from neutral to NATO ally for the remainder of the war.
To: Alter Kaker
we love to see Russia backing down in the morning
another small victory in a long war
To: silverleaf
You mean the ship parked at the dock where it’s been since before the attack?Totally undamaged and I am sure the Moskva is fine too, Russia's finest submarine!
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posted on
11/02/2022 8:12:17 AM PDT
by
Alter Kaker
(Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
To: Alter Kaker
Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan told parliament that “shipments will continue from 12pm today as planned”, after a call between the Russian and Turkish defense ministers. Erdogan senses Russian weakness and a chance to move up in the world.
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posted on
11/02/2022 8:19:13 AM PDT
by
DUMBGRUNT
( "The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!"Dien Bien Phu last messa)
To: dforest
This all ends if Russia pulls their troops out.
All of it.
L
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posted on
11/02/2022 8:20:54 AM PDT
by
Lurker
(Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is.)
To: Alter Kaker; All
Disinfo media does not have to be swallowed whole thanks to alt sources Maybe this is why Kiev hasn’t issued a stamp yet
Benjamin Pittet @COUPSURE Satellite images taken yesterday at 05:35 and 11:06 UTC show the two Admiral Grigorovich class frigates currently deployed in the Black Sea, moored in port. 4:10 AM · Nov 2, 2022 ·Twitter Web App
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posted on
11/02/2022 8:24:48 AM PDT
by
silverleaf
(“Freedom ultimately means the right of other people to do things that you disagree with”. T. Sowell )
To: Alter Kaker; silverleaf; UMCRevMom@aol.com; ought-six; dennisw; marcusmaximus; Widget Jr; PIF; ...
After Russia recieved assurances from Kiev: “It said Kyiv guaranteed “the non-use of the humanitarian corridor and Ukrainian ports determined in the interests of the export of agricultural products for conducting military operations against the Russian Federation.””
So I have several questions. Were Ukranian ports used to execute the alleged attack? Were the attackers using the humanitarian corridor? Where were the British sea drones launched from? Are they also checking Russian ships leaving the Black Sea possibly carrying arms for delivery to Syria, as well as grain?
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posted on
11/02/2022 8:24:55 AM PDT
by
gleeaikin
(Question authority!)
To: silverleaf; Alter Kaker; All
I read a week or two ago that Russia had pulled its war ships out of Sevastopol and parked them in some legitimate Russian port. Was that information wrong or did they decide to risk using Sevastopol again?
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posted on
11/02/2022 8:34:52 AM PDT
by
gleeaikin
(Question authority!)
To: DesertRhino
They were “involved in the transport” precisely as the mafiosi are involved in providing “protection” to a business.
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posted on
11/02/2022 8:37:07 AM PDT
by
buwaya
(Strategic imperatives )
To: Alter Kaker
Worse, the Russians had to decide whether they wanted to attack Turkish flagged ships.
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posted on
11/02/2022 8:38:38 AM PDT
by
buwaya
(Strategic imperatives )
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