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Zelenskyy open to talks with Russia — on Ukraine's terms
ABC News ^ | November 8, 2022 | ANDREW MELDRUM and YURAS KARMANAU

Posted on 11/08/2022 8:18:38 AM PST by McGruff

Ukraine’s president has suggested he’s open to peace talks with Russia, softening his earlier refusal to negotiate with Moscow while President Vladimir Putin is in power — while sticking to Kyiv’s demands.

Volodymyr Zelenskyy's appeal to the international community late Monday to “force Russia into real peace talks” reflected a change in rhetoric for a man who signed a decree in late September stating “the impossibility of holding talks” with Putin. But since his preconditions appear to be non-starters for Moscow, it’s hard to see how Zelenskyy’s latest comments would advance any talks.

Zelenskyy reiterated that his conditions for dialogue were the return of all of Ukraine's occupied lands, compensation for damage caused by the war and the prosecution of war crimes.

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1 posted on 11/08/2022 8:18:38 AM PST by McGruff
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To: McGruff
He'll make Putin do the National Ukrainian Dance


2 posted on 11/08/2022 8:22:14 AM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion, or satire, or both.)
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To: McGruff
"the return of all of Ukraine's occupied lands, compensation for damage caused by the war and the prosecution of war crimes."

Seems a reasonable starting point to me.

3 posted on 11/08/2022 8:24:06 AM PST by DannyTN
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To: McGruff

Oh my, it keeps changing by the minute. Now it is that the loser gets to determine the terms.

Oh well, we can drop this “malarky” now.


4 posted on 11/08/2022 8:24:09 AM PST by dforest
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To: dforest

He can demand in one hand, and cr@p in the other, and see which fills up quicker.


5 posted on 11/08/2022 8:26:21 AM PST by Fido969 (45 is Superman! )
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To: BenLurkin

Darn, ya beat me, I was going to show that as Z’s Opening Statement of Values.


6 posted on 11/08/2022 8:26:24 AM PST by Navy Patriot (Celebrate Decivilization)
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To: McGruff

It normally takes years to agree on the shape of the table at which negotiations will be held.


7 posted on 11/08/2022 8:30:35 AM PST by FarCenter
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To: DannyTN

it’s totally reasonable

which is why Russia will reject it, of course

Russia likes warmongering


8 posted on 11/08/2022 8:33:38 AM PST by canuck_conservative
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To: McGruff
Zelenskyy reiterated that his conditions for dialogue were the return of all of Ukraine's occupied lands, compensation for damage caused by the war and the prosecution of war crimes

To get that, Zelensky has to occupy Moscow (or get us to do it for him). That is not feasible.

9 posted on 11/08/2022 8:35:10 AM PST by Jim Noble (And manly hearts to guard the fair)
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To: McGruff

Since win does the loser in a conflict dictate the terms of surrender?

“This guy!”.


10 posted on 11/08/2022 8:35:45 AM PST by Codeflier (Screw Ukraine. America is burning, and we need to concentrate on our own collapse taking place.)
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To: dforest

Right now the war is a stalemate. Once the Ukraine gets the courage to destroy the dam at the Nova Kakhovka hydroelectric power station, thousands of Russian troops will be trapped on the right bank of the Dnieper.

That will break the stalemate in the Ukraine’s favor.


11 posted on 11/08/2022 8:35:48 AM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion, or satire, or both.)
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To: canuck_conservative

Actually, Russia hates admitting defeat. It’s better to save face by sacrificing the 300 Thousand than admit defeat


12 posted on 11/08/2022 8:36:31 AM PST by bert ( (KWE. NP. N.C. +12) Juneteenth is inequality day)
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To: McGruff

Cant wait for the money train to end. If whats going on in Ukraine is so damn important then Europe can pick up the welfare tab.


13 posted on 11/08/2022 8:36:43 AM PST by hillarys cankles
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To: DannyTN
There is no chance in hell Russia is giving area they have annexed and nothing is going to make them. The ethnic Russian population doesn't want to go back to being persecuted by Ukrainian nationalists and neo-Nazis.

Don't like it? Get your sorry ass over to Ukraine and fight the Russians yourself and stop asking Ukrainians to die in war they can't win in defense if the "liberal world order".

14 posted on 11/08/2022 8:37:17 AM PST by Kazan
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To: McGruff

Unless Ukraine begs for negotiations (on Russia’s terms), Ukraine will cease to exist by next summer.

Notice the lack of embedded journalists in the battle zones?

So far, it’s been a propaganda war, with lack of real info.

I keep looking at the map to verify all these great Ukrainian advances — not happening.


15 posted on 11/08/2022 8:38:21 AM PST by detch (")
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To: BenLurkin

Ukraine must attack

Covert commandos dispatched to burn the Hermitage should get Putin’s attention


16 posted on 11/08/2022 8:38:55 AM PST by bert ( (KWE. NP. N.C. +12) Juneteenth is inequality day)
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To: McGruff

Both leaders are in a political position where they can’t back down from their demands and stay in power. Zelinsky demands Russia quit all of Ukraine including their naval bases. Putin can’t take less than all the territory he gained plus keeping his naval bases. I think also that Putin has demanded that Ukraine perform all sorts of demeaning exercises like putting in writing that they are now and forever Russian.

I read a historian on Russian wars. He claimed that Russia never quit a war before it has taken a half a million casualties. One side or the other must be totally exhausted before they can even think about negotiating off their present demands. At the moment, at least, it appears to be Russia that is under the most pressure to settle. But if the economies of Europe and the US sink into a nineteen thirties style depression then the pressure will be on Ukraine to end the hostilities.

One thing is sure, if the war ends “too soon” meaning before one side is beaten, then it will resume again later.


17 posted on 11/08/2022 8:39:39 AM PST by Gen.Blather (Wait! I said that out loud? )
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To: detch

Drivel.

Mother Russia will be fortunate to be able to support the war prosecution come February or March. She lacks the logistical ability to move the needed supplies she doesn’t have


18 posted on 11/08/2022 8:41:24 AM PST by bert ( (KWE. NP. N.C. +12) Juneteenth is inequality day)
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To: McGruff

Russia should make a counterproposal so everyone can see the parties’ respective positions.


19 posted on 11/08/2022 8:41:59 AM PST by Bruce Campbells Chin
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To: BenLurkin

“ He’ll make Putin do the National Ukrainian Dance”

First he will spell his name right. Volodymir Putyn.


20 posted on 11/08/2022 8:45:20 AM PST by libh8er
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