Posted on 01/16/2023 12:05:23 AM PST by RomanSoldier19
ussia and Belarus began joint military exercises on Monday, sparking fears in Kyiv and the West that Moscow could use its ally to launch a fresh ground offensive in Ukraine.
Russia-Belarus begin joint military exercises, sparking fear in Kyiv of new offensive Russia and Belarus began joint military exercises on Monday, which have triggered fears in Kyiv and the West that Moscow ... Reuters 2h
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Maybe it’s one of those “solely defensive alliances” we keep hearing about that do not pose a threat…. You know, like NATO.
The Eastern Slavic Tribes are about to assemble another horde for slaughter.
Into the Western SLavic meat grinder they go to make sausage for the NWO and fund their oligarchs.
When will nukes come in?..you do not have long to wait for Putin to strike, as the demented Biden humps the Nuclear Football around Maryland in his Corvette.
C’mon man
Russian been mobilizing like crazy since September to fuel their second war of aggression versus Ukraine this century. Russian neighbors, in a neighborly kind of way helped with giving them shorter access to Kiev.
Once you start dragging Allie’s into it, it will get out of hand quickly. It’s an attempt to divert resources from the fighting front, because otherwise it’s just stupid.
In before the ZZ crowd of one starts posting to herself.
When are you going to go fight for Russia with a rifle as hard as you fight for Russia with a keyboard?
Right, NATO was going to invade a nuclear armed Russia. Okay
Not too dang likely, is it?
Funny, though - the people who have been screaming "Putin is Hitler!" and "We have to stop him now or he'll conquer Europe!!" have been insisting for months that 'Russia is going to invade a nuclear armed NATO!'
Not too dang likely, is it?
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Right, which is why Putin has been demanding NATO withdraw from Poland and the Baltic countries.
Russia demands NATO roll back from East Europe and stay out of Ukraine Dec 2021
Russia said on Friday it wanted a legally binding guarantee that NATO would give up any military activity in Eastern Europe and Ukraine, part of a wish list of security guarantees it wants to negotiate with the West.
Moscow for the first time laid out in detail demands that it says are essential for lowering tensions in Europe and defusing a crisis over Ukraine, which Western countries have accused Russia of sizing up for a potential invasion after building up troops near the border. Russia has denied planning an invasion.
https://www.reuters.com/world/russia-unveils-security-guarantees-says-western-response-not-encouraging-2021-12-17/
Oh my gosh - is that an "existential threat", or what? Guess some dictator "demanding" something must be solid ground for going to war, instead of just laughing in his face. Not to mention sticking future generations of Americans with another $100+ billion in debt (likely closer to $1 trillion with years of interest payments).
What do you think - should we go to war with Mexico, the next time their president 'demands' something? Or maybe just ignore him?
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Right, ignoring Mexican demands is the same as ignoring Putin's demands. We should ask Ukraine how it went, when they ignored Putin's demands
The difference is that Russia has been constantly threatening it and has started the biggest European war since WWII.
Putin has been so aggressive in his nuclear threatening that Trump suggested we send nuclear subs to threaten him into dropping “constantly using the N-word, that’s the N-word, and he’s constantly using it, the nuclear word.” as Trump described Putin’s constant nuclear threats.
I thought we were discussing the extremely low probability of anyone attacking a nuclear armed country or alliance (your post #7)? I agreed (post #8). You then raised the subject of a country "demanding" something from a nuclear armed alliance (your post #9), which is definitely a step down from an actual attack, but somewhat relevant - although if an attack is unlikely (which it quite obviously is), then 'demands' are even less likely to produce any results (my post #10).
Now you appear to be insisting that Putin is somehow a threat to NATO, even though NATO countries possess multiple nuclear arsenals, and spend an order of magnitude more on their militaries than does Russia. Plus, Putin's military was revealed months ago as being under-equiped with modern weapons, and entirely incompetent.
But, boy howdy, NATO better fear for it's very existence, because Putin threatened and then attacked that military giant, Ukraine. Oh, yeah, and couldn't even take Kiev! That's got to have Milley quaking in his boots...
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None of which suggests Russia would be sufficiently suicidal as to attack NATO. Russia spends about as much on their military every year as do Great Britain or (NOT 'and') France - given the superiority of western military hardware, the Ruskies are less capable of conquering Europe than are the Brits or the French. The likelihood is zero. And if they were crazy enough to try, the military that couldn't even take Kiev wouldn't get as far as Warsaw, before being reduced to smoking rubble. But, hey, it's obvious that folks need to maintain the illusion of "the Russian threat to NATO", or the dollars would stop flowing...
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The issue is what Putin threatens, not how you personally interpret the threats.
“”What do you think - should we go to war with Mexico, the next time their president ‘demands’ something? Or maybe just ignore him?””
Visit a VFW and ask them why Russia in the middle of conducting a European invasion and threatening to nuke us and NATO, making the demand that NATO retreat from Poland and the Baltics, is different from anything Mexico does or says, or demands.
Obviously, you do not care to dispute the facts: the under-funded, antiquated, and incompetent Russian military couldn't conquer Europe in a thousand years, and if they used nuclear weapons to attack NATO, it would be the last thing Russia ever did. But your interpretation of Putin's 'threats' must be terrifying!
Visit a VFW and ask them why Russia in the middle of conducting a European invasion and threatening to nuke us and NATO, making the demand that NATO retreat from Poland and the Baltics, is different from anything Mexico does or says, or demands.
As noted above, Putin's threats are essentially meaningless, given his complete inability to follow through: his conventional forces are a joke, and he can't attack NATO with nukes, or he signs Russia's death warrant. Funny thing about Mexico, though - what if the Mexican president threatened to start busing 10 million people per year up to the border, so they could simply walk across into the US? Now THAT would be a real threat! So I agree, there would be a difference!
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The issue is whether would Russia attack and while already conducting an invasion, their dictator threatens just that.
Your comparing Europe/NATO/Russia, huge armies, and nuclear weapons to Mexico is infantile.
And your inability to differentiate between threats, and the actual ability to follow through on those threats, is infantile. The facts are not in doubt: the under-funded, antiquated, and incompetent Russian military is manifestly incapable of conquering Europe, and if Russia used nuclear weapons to attack NATO, Russia would cease to exist.
Countries make threats all the time, irrespective of any real ability to follow through - which is why threats rarely prompt a military response. That was exactly what my comparison to Mexico emphasized, which simple fact you were apparently unable to grasp...
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Unlike you, I have fought for America in a literal sense... with a rifle. Happy to say I didn’t bleed. DC is the enemy, not Russia.
DC did the lockdowns, DC calls me an evil white male. DC pushes state atheism, DC locks up protesters for 2 years in solitary for protesting after THEY unleashed a communist racist mob against America. DC stole the election. DC stole massive amounts of money from my savings by crashing the economy. DC sexualizes children. DC humiliates the military by putting women and homos and trannies in charge of USMC infantry. DC colluded with Ukraine to steal money and impeach the last hope we had as a President. DC stole 2 elections. DC has unleashed the most pervasive domestic spying regimen in all of human history on us.
Last.... DC -murdered- my parents with their mRNA murder shot.
Putin has never called me a racist. DC is the enemy.
You should check yourself hard. The entire hard leftist Pantheon is on your side. Media, academia, CNN, MSNBC, Romney, Nancy Pelosi, Biden, Hillary, Obama, Soros, Boris Johnson, Trudeau, Macron, Merkel, Abramovich the spirit cooker, Rob Reiner, Schumer, Nadler, etc etc. 100% of the globalist, leftists in America and the world are beside you.
One of two things is true. Either all of these suddenly dropped all their authoritarian beliefs and became super patriots, standing for freedom...OR, you are blinded to your error for whatever reason.
Hint; they didn’t change.
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