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1 posted on 01/20/2023 7:47:56 AM PST by mac_truck
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Yeah, this is so troublesome. It’s a furnace where innocent conscripts are tossed into like so much chaff on both sides, and the Russians must be making quick work of it, as they’re not changing their strategy at all.

There will be no men to rebuild Ukraine with.


2 posted on 01/20/2023 7:52:27 AM PST by struggle
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The Germans want to go back to making patty cakes with the Russians and all the cheap energy supply.

That said If Russia should prevail, it will build up and recover East Germany to the USSR v.II.

And so much more.


3 posted on 01/20/2023 7:52:47 AM PST by DUMBGRUNT ( "The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!"Dien Bien Phu last messa)
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There are very few choke points in the wide open plains in this area. Rivers and cities are pretty much it.


4 posted on 01/20/2023 7:53:40 AM PST by MMusson
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German intelligence ...LOL!


6 posted on 01/20/2023 7:56:43 AM PST by READINABLUESTATE
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Joe Biden can end this carnage if he wanted to... but he wants his damn WWIII and his Great Reset


7 posted on 01/20/2023 7:56:45 AM PST by Chauncey Gardiner
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To: mac_truck

A refugee report I saw a while back estimated 7.9mm Ukrainians are now out of their country. I wonder what that estimate is now.


9 posted on 01/20/2023 8:00:55 AM PST by SaxxonWoods (The only way to secure your own future is to create it yourself. 111 is the key.)
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German Intelligence—which told German politicians that Ukraine would fall within a week, that none of the victories we’ve seen were even possible— routinely behaves as if it is under the control of the Russian FSB. A German double agent was even arrested recently:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11611391/British-intelligence-leaked-Russia-German-double-agent-expert-says.html

Multiple high level German politicians also have extremely close ties to Moscow.

Right now they’re in one of their weekly games where they refuse to send Ukraine weapons, then agree to send weapons, only to find out later that such weapons will not arrive for years.

Conveniently of course they start leaking of supposed massive defeats in Bakhmut, as if we don’t have constant video of the area to know otherwise. They should have said Soledar to be believable.


10 posted on 01/20/2023 8:09:28 AM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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“Devidiscourse” ??

what’s that, another Russian propaganda site?

(probably)

so we’ll believe this nonsense when/if its confirmed by a non-Russian source


13 posted on 01/20/2023 8:13:28 AM PST by canuck_conservative
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The Civil War was won by Grant, who incurred casualties as necessary so long as he inflicted equivalent casualties on the Confederates.

Contrast that with McClellan and others who were reluctant to incur casualties and were ineffective.

The objective of generals is to win battles and wars, not to ensure that everyone comes home.


19 posted on 01/20/2023 8:24:17 AM PST by FarCenter
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Some of the goals of this war are:
- Prop up the Federal Reserve and the dollar’s status as reserve currency.
- Implement the Green Agenda of depopulating the World. Starting with killing as many Ukrainians and Russians as possible.
- De-industrialize Europe.
- Redirect energy, resources and manufacturing to China.
- Pay off US politicians, especially Joe Biden.


33 posted on 01/20/2023 10:02:08 AM PST by Tacticalman
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Although Russian losses are considerably high as well, the report said this plays no role in the war tactics of the Russian army leadership as it is acting mercilessly around Bakhmut and throwing soldiers forward like cannon fodder.

Der Spiegel: German intelligence concerned about Ukraine's Bakhmut losses

https://www.dw.com/en/ukraine-updates-fighting-in-south-increases-sharply/a-64461872

34 posted on 01/20/2023 10:02:32 AM PST by tlozo (Better to Die on Your Feet than Live on Your Knees )
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