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US pilot shot down four Soviet MiGs in 30 minutes -- and kept it a secret for 50 years
ABC 12 News ^ | January 21, 2023 | Brad Lendon (CNN)

Posted on 01/21/2023 12:14:17 PM PST by Navy Patriot

Royce Williams was a real-life "Top Gun" 10 years before Tom Cruise was even born.

On a cold November day in 1952, Williams shot down four Soviet fighter jets -- and became a legend no one would hear about for more than 50 years.

The now 97-year-old former naval aviator was presented with the Navy Cross, the service's second-highest military honor at a ceremony Friday in California.

Navy Secretary Carlos Del Toro said on Friday that among the many proposals he has reviewed to upgrade sailors' awards, Williams' case "stood out above all others. It was very clear to me that his actions were truly extraordinary and more closely aligned with the criteria describing a higher medal."

(Excerpt) Read more at abc12.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: f9fpanther; koreanwar; mig15; navycross; putindeeplysaddened; roycewilliams; sovietunion; ussr
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A true story from my Navy, my Military and my Government.

Very much worth the read!

1 posted on 01/21/2023 12:14:17 PM PST by Navy Patriot
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To: Navy Patriot

From the headline, I thought this happened today. I was bracing for the flash.


2 posted on 01/21/2023 12:18:45 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom (Once you get people to believe that a plural pronoun is singular, they'll believe anything - nicollo)
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To: Navy Patriot

I just saw a YouTube video of a story about a Navy Vaught F4U- Corsair who he and his wingman were jumped by three Mig-15s and the Corsair pilot took one out becoming the first radial fighter to take out a jet fighter.


3 posted on 01/21/2023 12:19:36 PM PST by Macho MAGA Man
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

There will be no flash


4 posted on 01/21/2023 12:19:52 PM PST by bert ( (KWE. NP. N.C. +12) Juneteenth is inequality daythis piece is )
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To: Navy Patriot

Topper Harley lives!

(seriously, inspirational story!)


5 posted on 01/21/2023 12:24:10 PM PST by freedumb2003 (Difference between a cow and the US Capitol 1/6 "riot:" you can only milk a cow 3 times a day)
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To: Macho MAGA Man

While I normally do not pay any attention to Airdales or Marines, Captain Jesse G. Folmar, USMC is another one I am proud of.


6 posted on 01/21/2023 12:30:23 PM PST by Navy Patriot (Celebrate Decivilization)
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To: Macho MAGA Man

Didn’t Mustangs and Thunderbolts take out ME-262s in WW2??


7 posted on 01/21/2023 12:31:32 PM PST by ealgeone
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To: bert

Your cockiness and war mongering are noted...repeatedly...daily...


8 posted on 01/21/2023 12:35:12 PM PST by EEGator
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

The “Soviet” in the title should have eased your mind.


9 posted on 01/21/2023 12:36:07 PM PST by Navy Patriot (Celebrate Decivilization)
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To: ealgeone

I know of Chuck Yeager taking out a ME-262 but I’m not sure if he was in a Mustang or Thunderbolt.


10 posted on 01/21/2023 12:37:33 PM PST by Macho MAGA Man
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To: bert; ProtectOurFreedom
There will be no flash

Not until he finishes his prison sentence anyway.

11 posted on 01/21/2023 12:38:43 PM PST by Navy Patriot (Celebrate Decivilization)
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To: Navy Patriot

Having read this story I suspect the Soviets were beaten so badly they did not want to repeat the experience.


12 posted on 01/21/2023 12:47:14 PM PST by Nateman (If Mohammad was not the Anti Christ Mad Moe definitely comes in as a Strong second..)
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To: Nateman

Was it Maverick and Iceman?


13 posted on 01/21/2023 12:47:53 PM PST by Captain Peter Blood
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To: ealgeone

Mustang isn’t a radial. I don’t know if any thunderbolt got any 262s.


14 posted on 01/21/2023 1:07:11 PM PST by Pocketdoor
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To: Pocketdoor
Oberfeldwebel Hieronymus Lauer became the first to be shot down by US fighters while flying a jet aircraft. His Me 262 fighter was shot down by Major Joseph Myers and 2nd Lieutenant Manford Croy, Jr. of 82nd Fighter Squadron of USAAF 78th Fighter Group, both flying P-47 fighters. When Lauer was shot down at 1915 hours, his guns were not even loaded, as he was on a ferry flight between Juvincourt, France and Chievres, Belgium. Lauer survived the subsequent crash landing.

https://ww2db.com/aircraft_spec.php?aircraft_model_id=17

15 posted on 01/21/2023 1:11:29 PM PST by ealgeone
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To: Navy Patriot

So the gov refused to award him, for reasons only the pashas knew, and he had to wait 50 years for a death bed “we’re sorry”?

The only appropriate response would be “shove it.”


16 posted on 01/21/2023 1:15:47 PM PST by DPMD
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To: Navy Patriot

“On a cold November day in 1952, Williams shot down four Soviet fighter jets”

Don’t know either way, but the dude now thinks Ukraine will win this war.


17 posted on 01/21/2023 1:18:11 PM PST by BobL
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To: DPMD
probably didn't want to escalate the war.
18 posted on 01/21/2023 1:20:28 PM PST by ealgeone
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To: DPMD

A better question would be “why now”?


19 posted on 01/21/2023 1:31:08 PM PST by Romulus
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To: Nateman
You're most likely right about that.

The Communist Political Narrative for Korea was that Korea was a vassal state of Japan that invaded and made war on China through WWII and lost, therefore China (now Communist) should occupy and administer Korea.

This was echoed by the Soviet Union as a member of the Allies against Japan for three weeks.

The Soviet Union did not recognize the United Nations regarding the WWII disposition of Korea.

The Soviet Union helped install a Communist Government in North Korea and supplied the North Koreans and Chinese Communists with much military hardware, (jet) aircraft and much other war material.

However the military incidents authored by the Soviet Union it's self regarding Korea were very few, while the Political-Publicity Narrative was constant.

There is a possibility that this dispatch of Soviet Jets into Korean combat airspace was a screw up on the part of the Soviet chain of Command.

Or they found out the hard way.

20 posted on 01/21/2023 1:34:07 PM PST by Navy Patriot (Celebrate Decivilization)
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