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To: Alas Babylon!
How many times did they say, “Give me your hands!”? He didn’t. He did not want to be cuffed. This went on for a while.

Tyre did everything wrong in a physical altercation with police - he yelled back, he struggled, he kicked, he ran. Its like his brain shut off and he was operating on pure adrenalin.

It doesn't justify his being beaten to death, and at this point, we don't know the justification for stopping him in the first place.

But like every major Police scandal there is - from Rodney King to Michael Brown to George Floyd - it began with a perp who refused to submit.

So how do you train police? Well, subdue the perp, especially if he fights you - "but not too much!"

Or if they resist, just let the perp go?

59 posted on 01/27/2023 4:51:23 PM PST by PGR88
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To: PGR88

What did they do in the 70’s?


65 posted on 01/27/2023 4:54:45 PM PST by M_Continuum
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To: PGR88
I'm looking at the unmarked cars and the aggressive approach those cops took from the moment they pulled him over and dragged him out of the car (and who gets dragged out of a car over a simple traffic stop, anyway?).

I wonder if the dude suspected these mutants weren't even real police officers, and were there to rob/carjack him.

66 posted on 01/27/2023 4:55:07 PM PST by Alberta's Child
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To: PGR88
That will happen if you are afraid you are going to be killed. Not any attempt to deescalating situation during the initial encounter.
68 posted on 01/27/2023 4:55:15 PM PST by mware
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To: PGR88

“So how do you train police?”

Is it too much to ask them not to murder people?


84 posted on 01/27/2023 5:01:41 PM PST by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism. )
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To: PGR88

“Like every major Police scandal there is - from Rodney King to Michael Brown to George Floyd - it began with a perp, who refused to submit.”


95 posted on 01/27/2023 5:04:23 PM PST by Grampa Dave ((Truth is hate speech to those, who hate the truth!) (clintonh8r))
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To: PGR88

When cops shoot, it’s because you are risking serious harm to them or others, and they shoot for center mass. They keep shooting until you stop doing what it is to cause them to shoot. If you die after that, you were shot to death.

When cops hit, it’s because they want you to be still, and they hit you until you are. If you die after that, you were beaten to death.

That’s all this was.


120 posted on 01/27/2023 5:14:27 PM PST by fruser1
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To: PGR88; Grampa Dave
every major Police scandal there is - from Rodney King to Michael Brown to George Floyd - it began with a perp who refused to submit.

And ended with cops that didn't stop excessive force even long after the perp was more than subdued.

123 posted on 01/27/2023 5:16:21 PM PST by Moonlighter
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To: PGR88

“So how do you train police?”

Defund them?


154 posted on 01/27/2023 5:34:46 PM PST by Does so (What distinguishes today's Russian aggression from that of the USSR?)
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To: PGR88

I remember watching cops and there were plenty of times the cop would be on the perps back, and he would be laying on his arm unable to get it behind his back. Meanwhile, they keep yelling, stop resisting. He didn’t deserve the beating he got. I’m just thankful you didn’t decide to be a cop


223 posted on 01/27/2023 6:18:22 PM PST by roving ( Pronouns- libs/suk)
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