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Trumka’s Banning Gas Stoves Was Ultimately a Bunch of Hot Air
The Washington Times ^ | January 18, 2023 | David Keene

Posted on 01/28/2023 9:37:00 AM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts

Like many sports fans, I was no fan of artificial grass but couldn’t see what led Washington policymakers to believe they had the power to ban the stuff. It dawned on me that if the feds believed they had the right to ban artificial grass, they probably believed they had the power to ban or regulate any activity or product they didn’t like...<snip>

Federal bureaucrats and elected officials have since justified that conclusion in hundreds of ways. Last month, the chairman of the Consumer Product Safety Commission announced at a “virtual” news conference sponsored by an amalgam of progressive public interest groups that the CPSC was seriously contemplating a ban on gas stoves for environmental and health reasons. Richard Trumka Jr., son of the former head of the AFL-CIO and a buddy of President Biden, told reporters that such a ban is “on the table,” bragging that a ban is “a powerful tool in our tool belt and it’s a real possibility here.”

Mr. Trumka is a regulator and banner from way back. He came out of the Maryland Attorney General’s Office. He spent time as a congressional staffer fighting to ban e-cigarettes. Still, it wasn’t until he was appointed head of the consumer agency that he discovered gas stoves represent an existential threat to the public.

His announcement was, as it turned out, a classic Washington “trial balloon,” and it was not well received by either those millions of Americans who prefer to “cook with gas” or those who still believe there are limits on the government’s inclination to meddle. The result was a firestorm of criticism from the right and the public.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: gasstoveban
While this is an opinion piece from The Washington Times, it seems to have some relevant facts stated in it. I've looked for more detail along these lines but didn't find anything to corroborate.

Still, I'm positing it for those who are following this possible issue.

1 posted on 01/28/2023 9:37:00 AM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

We are like Canada now. The Imperial Executive can do almost anything they can think of.

Sad.


2 posted on 01/28/2023 9:42:12 AM PST by Vlad0 (Ukraine is the money laundering center for the Soros / WEF / Democratic elite. Ask Hunter! )
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts
Is it ultimately a bunch of hot air that San Francisco has banned all new construction from using any natural gas appliances since 2020? Is it ultimately a bunch of hot air that New York City has banned all new construction from using any natural gas appliances since 2021? Is it ultimately a bunch of hot air that over 80 municipalities in California have banned natural gas in new homes since 2018?

It's coming, you just got caught pushing too much, too soon.

3 posted on 01/28/2023 9:42:37 AM PST by Yo-Yo (Is the /Sarc tag really necessary? Pray for President Biden: Psalm 109:8)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts
Little Dick is as big of a corrupt crook as big, little Dick was.

"We shoved Obamacare down the Republicans' throats!" - Big, little Dick Trumka while Nanzi was reading the bill she had just gotten passed so she could find out what was in it.

4 posted on 01/28/2023 9:44:30 AM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Spay and neuter your "migrants" and liberals.)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

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5 posted on 01/28/2023 9:49:14 AM PST by sauropod (“If they don’t believe our lies, well, that’s just conspiracy theorist stuff, there.”)
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To: sauropod

natural Gas is probably the cleanest of all since the rest take fossil fuels to support.


6 posted on 01/28/2023 9:56:44 AM PST by Sacajaweau ( )
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

Uh, they didn’t really, really mean for that to be said out loud.


7 posted on 01/28/2023 10:00:18 AM PST by rktman (Destroy America from within? Check! WTH? Enlisted USN 1967 to end up with this? 😕)
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To: Yo-Yo

California is a different animal altogether. But I agree, it’s still coming. Unless something is done.


8 posted on 01/28/2023 10:02:07 AM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (Great minds drink alike...me and my baby havin' a hell of a night. - - BB King)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts
Mr. Trumka now says the CPSC was just kidding...which has led his defenders to argue that those who opposed the ban were making a lot out of nothing. The evidence suggests the opposite.

This is a classic trial balloon, or rather it would have been only that had New York City and California not proceeded merrily along the lines of formal prohibition. The Cult has been activated and they'll be back.

9 posted on 01/28/2023 10:08:05 AM PST by Billthedrill
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

Tell that to the people in NY State - a co-worker’s Husband sells and installs Gas Hot Water Heaters and Gas Furnaces - they are also a major Propane supplier in upstate NY.

The Owner told his workers that they will probably be out of business by 2030.

Crazy Hochul was re-elected to destroy NY.


10 posted on 01/28/2023 10:29:53 AM PST by EC Washington
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

Did the out-of-control Statist Controllers have a Come-to-Jesus moment and repent?

Or are they just laying low for a while, licking their wounds, and planning to regroup and launch another assault?

We should expect them to launch a few more feints to test their enemy’s weaknesses. ( “enemy” meaning us Normals)


11 posted on 01/28/2023 10:40:35 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom (Once you get people to believe that a plural pronoun is singular, they'll believe anything - nicollo)
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To: Billthedrill

This is a classic trial balloon, or rather it would have been only that had New York City and California not proceeded merrily along the lines of formal prohibition. The Cult has been activated and they’ll be back.

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I’ve come to the conclusion that green zealots will have to implement a lot of economic pain before dopey Brad & Karen in the suburbs will wake up.

Eventually we’ll get the investments in the energy sector we need, we just aren’t there yet.


12 posted on 01/28/2023 10:45:45 AM PST by unclebankster (Globalism is the last refuge of a scoundrel.)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

Hey, at least we are getting close with battery storage, only takes 3x50lb lithium ion batteries to match 1lb of propane for cooking.

Calculation
1lb propane = 21.5KBTU
2.5KWh lithium battery weiging 50lbs (SOK 12V)= 8.5KBTU (100% conversion efficency, really it’s about 90% useable)
21.5/8.5=2.53
You could buy a additional half size battery, but then you get BMS and discharge rate limitations for the smaller battery.

I guess that is the baffling part to me: efficiency. Propane is just so space efficient in terms of stored energy.

I can cook on gas or electric. Prefer induction electric to any other form (extremely rapid thermal response, quick cooling eye, very easy cleanup, and while outside, does not blow out), but we have to do a lot better to make a camping stove + battery that can match a propane camping stove and 2lbs of propane.

That’s one thing I have wondered about batteries and backup power though. For areas that lose power, propane and gasoline keeps people alive (whether hurricane alley or winter wonderlands). Batteries have a ways to go before they can match that portability. I am not a physicist, I can’t say if we ever can match that capacity or not. What we have is impressive — but not when you compare to fossil fuels, pound for pound).

Hopefully we can get close, because our unelected masters who control our elected masters, want us off their oil as soon as possible. Hopefully they are OK with us having portable and backup power. Some days, I am not so sure.

Eventually no portable hydrocarbons will be available. Hopefully we can get machines that convert our waste plastic to gasoline, for those “bad days”, or we can build illegal diesels to burn our used cooking oil in case of emergencies.

Hydrogen also seems to be picking up momentum, and while not a perfect replacement, it has potential to mostly replace what we do with fossil fuels.

Till then, it is pretty difficult to make a high grade gasoline or burnable gas (well, there is methane...). Those who would say it isn’t, where is my Mr. Gasoline that can take in garbage and push out 104 octane?


13 posted on 01/28/2023 11:24:19 AM PST by Aqua225 (Realist)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

Will they also ban hot water heaters?


14 posted on 01/28/2023 12:27:06 PM PST by 353FMG (Secretly practicing my Putin swagger..)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

BOTH Trumka’s need to be sleeping with Jimmy Hoffa. Fat little union Thug and his Retard son need to stop wasting Oxygen.


15 posted on 01/28/2023 1:26:16 PM PST by OHPatriot (Si vis pacem, para bellum)
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To: OHPatriot

I’m with you. Union thugs tick me off.


16 posted on 01/28/2023 2:57:19 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Spay and neuter your "migrants" and liberals.)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

***Richard Trumka Jr., son of the former head of the AFL-CIO and a buddy of President Biden,***

AFL-CIO also represents the IBEW International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers. So he would naturally push for the electrical industry to force people on gas to get electrical products for heating and cooking.


17 posted on 01/28/2023 3:05:25 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (“No man’s life, liberty, or property are safe while the legislature is in session.”)
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To: 353FMG
Will they also ban hot water heaters?

Hot water doesn't need heating.

Kidding. Sorry...I had to go there. =;^)

18 posted on 01/29/2023 6:34:38 AM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (Great minds drink alike...me and my baby havin' a hell of a night. - - BB King)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

Cold showers and dirty dishes and clothing will be the trend of the future.


19 posted on 01/29/2023 2:51:05 PM PST by 353FMG (Secretly practicing my Putin swagger..)
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To: 353FMG
Well, The dishes will be as clean as Cold Water can get 'em
20 posted on 01/29/2023 3:20:20 PM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (You can never have enough clamps. Thanks Ben.)
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