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Democrat Tim Kaine’s Wife Denounces Declaration of Independence, Constitution as ‘Fundamental in Enshrining Slavery’
Breitbart ^
| 02/03/2023
| Breccan F. Thies
Posted on 02/03/2023 6:25:32 PM PST by ChicagoConservative27
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To: Steely Tom
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posted on
02/04/2023 8:40:58 AM PST
by
Eleutheria5
(Every Goliath has his David.)
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posted on
02/04/2023 9:28:22 AM PST
by
SunkenCiv
(Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
To: Fury
Madison and others made clear that the Slave Trade Clause (among others) was included to help ensure support of the drafted Constitution by our Southern brothers. In 1787 the vast majority of the Northern states were still slave states.
Although Jefferson was not a participant, prior to 1808 his writing makes clear (to me) that the intent was all along for the Federal government to ban the importation of slaves at the earliest possible time.
Banning importation is not banning slavery.
So the US Constitution did not eradicate slavery at its inception but contained the mechanism to limit it, and eradicate it via the Amendment process.
I am unaware of any constitutional provision for limiting slavery other than the ban on importing more slaves. Article IV, section 2 required fugitive slaves to be returned to their masters. I think the constitution recognized slavery as legal, but clearly many of the framers didn't like it and did not want to acknowledge it except by indirect means.
No attempt was ever made to amend the US constitution to prohibit slavery. Lincoln and his Republican allies in congress *DID* make an attempt to amend the constitution to protect slavery in perpetuity.
This effort was known as the "Corwin Amendment."
103
posted on
02/04/2023 12:50:46 PM PST
by
DiogenesLamp
("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
To: DiogenesLamp
I don’t disagree with much of what you are posting.
I merely point out that the US Constitution via the Amendment process was ready made to ban or limit slavery at any time. It just took the political will to do so.
The Act Prohibiting Importation of Slaves of 1807 (2 Stat. 426) I believe did have the effect of invigorating supporters of abolition (who in many cases were racist in their views regarding blacks).
Yes, the Corwin Amendment was sent to the States for ratification, and yes, President Lincoln did not oppose its ratification at the time of his first inauguration. But time marches on and a different Thirteenth Amendment was ratified in December 1865.
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posted on
02/04/2023 1:32:01 PM PST
by
Fury
To: Soul of the South
Abner Linwood Holton was a Socialist moonbat. His daughter is a Communist. Hers and Timmy Kaine’s son, named for grandpa, is a domestic Stalinazi terrorist.
105
posted on
02/04/2023 1:39:11 PM PST
by
fieldmarshaldj
(America Owes Anita Bryant An Enormous Apology)
To: sit-rep
Yeah!
Who cares what voters want anyway?
106
posted on
02/04/2023 1:47:31 PM PST
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
To: DiogenesLamp
107
posted on
02/04/2023 1:49:36 PM PST
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
To: Fury
The Act Prohibiting Importation of Slaves of 1807 (2 Stat. 426) I believe did have the effect of invigorating supporters of abolition (who in many cases were racist in their views regarding blacks). This is an aspect of this topic of which I don't believe most Americans are aware. It came as a surprise to me when I discovered the actual motivation of all those people in the past who opposed slavery.
There were true abolitionists who opposed slavery for moral reasons, but they were a tiny minority. The vast majority of the people opposed it because they didn't want any blacks in their society.
Reading the black codes of the state of Illinois during this era was one of the things that clued me in to how people really felt. They hated black people and wanted them kept out of their society.
Yes, the Corwin Amendment was sent to the States for ratification, and yes, President Lincoln did not oppose its ratification at the time of his first inauguration. But time marches on and a different Thirteenth Amendment was ratified in December 1865.
But a reasonable man would ask how anyone motivated by a moral impulse could come down first on the one side (preserving slavery indefinitely) and then later on the other side. (eradicating it.)
What I have learned on the issue is that we have been greatly misled about why people did what they did. Their motives have been sanitized and presented in the best light possible.
And also, was the 13th Amendment really ratified, or did 11 puppet governments under the control of Lincoln's government simply "ratify" what they were ordered to ratify?
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posted on
02/06/2023 12:13:31 PM PST
by
DiogenesLamp
("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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