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Using electric vehicles as grid storage blasted as another 'green fantasy'
WND ^ | February 12,2023 | By Jonathan Lesser

Posted on 02/12/2023 12:22:09 PM PST by Hojczyk

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To: Hojczyk

Buttplug thinks that’s a great idea.


41 posted on 02/12/2023 3:07:55 PM PST by beethovenfan (The REAL Great Reset will be when Jesus returns. )
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To: Hojczyk

Green means SCAM


42 posted on 02/12/2023 3:26:18 PM PST by butlerweave
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To: TexasGator

He discusses EV batteries in detail.


43 posted on 02/12/2023 3:34:44 PM PST by fretzer
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To: fretzer

“He discusses EV batteries in detail.”

What does he say?


44 posted on 02/12/2023 3:38:37 PM PST by TexasGator
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To: Blood of Tyrants

“Not if you have a heat pump, electric stove, and electric water heater.”

Show the math.


45 posted on 02/12/2023 3:39:46 PM PST by TexasGator
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To: Hojczyk

There is a WSJ article this afternoon that references a “think tank” paper from a group in California, that sets out the problems with having everyone switch to EVs. Lack of electrical infrastructure and sources, environmental harm and needed water and other resources to mine the necessary components, and the lack of sufficient cobalt, lithium and other minerals necessary for EV’s. Of course critical thinking people have been pointing out these issues for years now.

Their solution? Move everyone into urban “housing centers” and not allow private transportation or rural living. The peons can walk, bike, or take public transportation to pre-determined locations if they can just be shepherded in to “5 or 15 minutes cities”. I’m sure those that “make the rules” will be exempt from these requirements for they will be living on large acreage plots in mansions surrounded by fencing and guarded by armed security.

Raise your hand if you didn’t see this one coming so I can call you naive!


46 posted on 02/12/2023 3:53:29 PM PST by CFW (old and retired)
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To: TexasGator

See for yourself.


47 posted on 02/12/2023 3:54:15 PM PST by fretzer
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To: Hojczyk
"Using electric vehicles as grid storage blasted as another 'green fantasy'"

I don't believe I would care to shorten the life of my very expensive EV battery on behalf of an incompetent electric company.
48 posted on 02/12/2023 3:57:20 PM PST by clearcarbon (Fraudulent elections have consequences.)
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To: MtnClimber

Gimme my gots new green deal for my stupid BIPOC aszzz. As if these doped up clowns could care about green anything anywhere at anytime in this universe that has 14 billion years to go

BTW shouldn’t these (autism) rainmakers being talking trillions of dollars these days? The way the DC Federals bat around trillions of dollars casually. It’s not their money or pension

And they WFH doing jack squat


49 posted on 02/12/2023 4:07:52 PM PST by dennisw ("You don't have to like it. You just have to do it")
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To: fretzer

“Take an hour and watch this. It provides a first order estimate as to the total amount of materials needed to go “green”.”

From your professor ... We are past peak oil and we must go green!


50 posted on 02/12/2023 4:14:51 PM PST by TexasGator
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To: CFW

Very nice but what are these clowns doing for work? OK I get it. They are all Gov’t pretend employees. And WFH no less! While out buying Gyros and walking their and neighbors dogs.


51 posted on 02/12/2023 4:17:40 PM PST by dennisw ("You don't have to like it. You just have to do it")
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To: TexasGator

Did you watch the whole bloody thing? The lady which introduced the professor appears to be a woketard but the prof is not.

He’s an Australian professor of engineering with a PhD in mining engineering. He is currently working for the Finish government and was asked to compile a list of the quantity of materials necessary to implement the “green” transition by 2050. He did just that. That does not mean he is a greenie.

The video covers two papers, one of which has been peer-reviewed and the other was pending review at the time of the publication of the video.


52 posted on 02/12/2023 4:31:33 PM PST by fretzer
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To: Hojczyk

This idea assumes that battery charging ports and chargers are bidirectional. I’d bet they are not.


53 posted on 02/12/2023 4:44:09 PM PST by Professional Engineer (Looks like I'll have to buy the White Album again.)
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To: fretzer

He my not be woke but believes we have to go green and that will result in a lower standard of living.


54 posted on 02/12/2023 4:50:24 PM PST by TexasGator
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To: TexasGator

Did you finish the video?


55 posted on 02/12/2023 4:51:15 PM PST by fretzer
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To: fretzer

“Did you finish the video?”

What did he say?


56 posted on 02/12/2023 4:52:33 PM PST by TexasGator
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To: TexasGator

To paraphrase:

“Eat, Drink and be Merry for tomorrow we die.”


57 posted on 02/12/2023 5:01:36 PM PST by fretzer
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To: TexasGator
Of course the wind dies suddenly and can die everywhere. Whether it is predictable enough to efficiently use gas to replace it is an open question. Gas will be about 35% running as demand response, and 55% or more used for constant baseload.

If you are implying the "won't die everywhere" means the current grid can meet the demand you are wrong, and the current grid will never do that, other than the case of wind exporting areas with lines built to constantly export the power.

Suffice to say you are going to use your truck battery for emergencies only because utilities will turn on fossil when the wind dies.

58 posted on 02/12/2023 6:29:28 PM PST by palmer (Democracy Dies Six Ways from Sunday)
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To: palmer

“If you are implying “

My sentence was a straight- forward statement of fact. Nothing implies.

One sentence. Don’t excerpt from it and try to give give those three words any implication.


59 posted on 02/12/2023 6:42:35 PM PST by TexasGator
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To: TexasGator

You posted: “My cars suit idle most days.” Hence, I was telling you how to take advantage of different power rates in the day without having to spend money on an EV you’d hardly drive.


60 posted on 02/12/2023 7:32:53 PM PST by Tell It Right (1st Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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