Posted on 02/18/2023 7:01:31 PM PST by Golden Eagle
He can read. :)
Totally agree!
it all evens out
he works on his cut and paste skills
i work on my scrolling skills
Damn boy, you put some miles on that chassis.
You’re my hero LOL
An inconvenient truth for gasdr.
Of course it’s “higher.”
Covid policy, recommendations, public discourse etc… we’re irrational and non-scientific.
It was like the science of immunology didn’t exist.
Touche!
Yeah poor Danny has run out of ammo, or his boosters are kicking in and he needed some help.
Call it a “shot.” That’s what it is.
In 2020 I was 65. By mid-summer there were fatality rate charts based on age and sex and FWIW they haven’t changed much since then. For a male my age the FR was 1.452%. IOWs a survival rate of 98.55%
The vax was coming but no one knew if it would be a year, two years or what and no one knew much about mRNA tech. but I looked at that fatality rate and decided then I would never take a vax. Based on the FR alone I considered it absurd.
And the rates just went down down down the younger the age groups were.
What are they teaching these computers these days?
I guess if you’re a machine the concept of jumping out of a plane is hard to wrap your wiring around. :)
Yes that's true but there is a large population of people that have already done that more than once even. Why should they have to risk side effects from one of the vaccines or boosters when natural immunity is more than adequate?
This was not meant as a criticism of DannyTN's statement, just a thought provoking rhetorical question for the thread.
A "shot" could be anything, from a bullet, to a basketball, to some other drug. Gotta have an adjective or two there to know exactly which "shot" I'm talking about.
DNA death shot's not bad, but maybe a little overboard. Spike spreader shot, how's that?
True - though at this stage of the now former pandemic, vaccines are irrelevant. They may - may - be effective for someone who has never been exposed to the virus and wasn't vaccinated previously - but who would that be at this point? Virtually no one.
But that does remind us of the postings here back during the worst period of the pandemic where people were making statements - and apparently being serious - claiming the vaccine made no difference because people with natural immunity would also have immunity against catching the virus. Utterly ridiculous statement yet said many times over back at the time - boggles the mind how someone could say such a thing and think it made sense. Then there were the posts back at that time as well with data from areas that were 80-90% vaccinated showing that those in the hospital in those areas that 50% of them were vaccinated and 50% unvaccinated and them actually arguing that showed the vaccines were no more effective than being unvaccinated. They actually would argue something this obviously absurd until they were blue in the face.
You write this, and yet you would actually ping people to those "Lenora Thompson, Patriotic Writer" posts - apparently thinking they made sense.
It was about much more than mere “fatality rates” and at this point you should know that quite well. I know many people who “survived” but would never want to go through that living hell again. Also know people who “survived” but their lives will never be the same again. And unfortunately know a number of people who are no longer with us, and even more who lost family members and dear friends - one person losing both his mother and younger brother within a weak. All of them would have been very happy to have had this vaccine before that occurred and possibly avoided going through all of that and probably still having their loved ones with them.
I was speaking for myself and that should have been obvious from my post.
For me the FR alone was more than enough to decide I would never get a vax for covid.
I considered it absurd then and I still do.
The J&J and Astrazeneca ones use DNA (and then produces the mRNA). I remember the flame wars of people arguing that J&J was "better" because it didn't use mRNA (no, it is actually more invasive by actually inserting new DNA into the cell that then codes the mRNA to then code the spike protein).
The article posted the other week by the supposedly beloved Dr. Peter McCullough, however, blew that out the water as he used data that had only considered those who had taken the Chinese vaccine, which used neither DNA nor mRNA technology and instead uses dead or weakened virus. So it would be the mere presence of the spike protein that is causing the symptoms, and that would mean those who got viral infections also had that.
It is indeed an individual choice, and I’m not going to argue against that, but I worked in an industry greatly effected by people getting infected with COVID and having very serious illnesses (some still very will years later) and dying. Never had something like that happen before or since - nor had I ever seen so many people I know dying and losing close friends and relatives in such a short period of time - ever. Also had a close friend who was young, athletic and healthy become deathly ill twice with several months - the initial round and then when Delta was spreading - it was very scary for him and his family. I don’t think I would have survived the COVID strains going on at the start of the pandemic given some of the health issues I have that put you at greater risk, hence I did get a vaccine when it was available. I elected not to get boosters (just like I would not get last year’s flu vaccine this year). Maybe I would have survived but that’s not an experiment I would go back and try to see. All that combined does not make it “absurd” to suggest COVID was serious and that some would consider getting a vaccine for it. It was based entirely on a terrible reality that was indeed occurring.
Much of what I learned was also from FR postings and many more people were dying and did die in 2020/2021 from the data in the US than on average due to COVID.
Amazingly, many people still claimed that things like heart attacks, strokes, myocarditis, etc. weren’t ever talked about prior to the vaccines, but of course they were - and plastered all over the place here, and it is very difficult to believe those people would not have seen it. It isn’t like COVID wasn’t a major topic of discussion during that period of time. Some people just live in alternate realities and still do. Now they take data from the *current* effectiveness of getting vaccines and apply it retroactively to what was occurring during the worst part of the pandemic after the vaccines were available to say “see, we were right all along!” Totally absurd logic.
Same here, but I have five years on you.
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