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Lancet Study: Natural Immunity as Protective as COVID Vaccine, 'If Not Higher'
Human Events ^ | February 17, 2023 | Ben Kew

Posted on 02/18/2023 7:01:31 PM PST by Golden Eagle

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To: Republican Wildcat
Much of what I learned was also from FR postings ...

I think you misunderstood my post. When I used the acronym 'FR' I meant "fatality rate" not Free Republic.

In any case, I'm sorry for your losses. Apparently you experienced a lot because "worked in an industry greatly effected by people getting infected with COVID and having very serious illnesses." That would certainly increase your anecdotal contact.

I don't know anyone who got covid much less anyone who died of it. I know of one person, my best friend, who died because his doctors would not see him in person for over a year. His wife tried repeatedly to get him an appt. but all they would accede to were "phone appointments."

Apparently chronic pneumonia is hard to diagnose on the phone. He died two months after they finally saw him in person, misdiagnosed his pneumonia as emphysema and COPD, and it was too late for any saving measures.

FWIW he did get the Moderna shot about two months before he died.

61 posted on 02/18/2023 10:06:00 PM PST by TigersEye (The Democrat Party is criminal, unAmerican and illegitimate )
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To: Republican Wildcat

I forgot to mention that there is no evidence that any of the vaxxes prevent covid or lessen its severity. That Pfizer exec. cleared that up when he said that no testing for effectiveness was done.


62 posted on 02/18/2023 10:07:55 PM PST by TigersEye (The Democrat Party is criminal, unAmerican and illegitimate )
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To: Golden Eagle

I gave up on The Lancet...


63 posted on 02/18/2023 10:17:30 PM PST by Bobalu (Unrepentant communists, NAZI’s and totalitarians of all stripe are bowing toward Davos)
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To: Jane Long
It is concerning that there are people derailing our conversations and aiding a campaign that has resulted in mass murder and wrecking the health of millions. What is a proper response to those who push forward a campaign of mass murder?


64 posted on 02/18/2023 10:29:24 PM PST by magooey (The Mandate of Heaven resides in the hearts of men.)
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To: Golden Eagle
DNA death shot's not bad, but maybe a little overboard. Spike spreader shot, how's that?

Some use the expression "Jim Jones jab".


65 posted on 02/18/2023 10:31:13 PM PST by magooey (The Mandate of Heaven resides in the hearts of men.)
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To: TigersEye

I agree regarding the stats. At the time, I followed them very closely.

Regarding the vax, the promotional campaigns for an unvetted drug were beyond insane. And the massive absence of discretion and submission was very disheartening.


66 posted on 02/18/2023 10:47:31 PM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Gene Eric
Yes, the stats guided my initial decision but the tyranny and hysteria cemented my position. This is what I posted quite some time ago.

"Why would I need a vaccine for something with a 99 percent survival rate that does not have any distinguishable features?” said Zubiate. (a registered nurse)

There is my original reason for being disinterested in being vaccinated. Unless I had reason to think I had a high risk factor for serious illness or death in connection to SARS-CoV-2 taking a vaccine for it would be an hysterical overreaction.

But since that initial decision was made the government and media have heaped on far more important questions of trust and principle. Because what I see there is deceit, bad faith and malevolence in connection to the vaccines which outweighs any personal health concerns and sets my mind in adamantine opposition to taking it.

With those two implacable reasons to refrain from vaccinating I don't need to struggle with the debates over safety issues. "Safe as spring water" would be a wholly inadequate argument to overcome my objections to taking them.

67 posted on 02/18/2023 10:53:24 PM PST by TigersEye (The Democrat Party is criminal, unAmerican and illegitimate )
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To: DannyTN

To get Natural Immunity, you first have to survive Covid with no protection.


However, once you have...


68 posted on 02/18/2023 10:55:00 PM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: TigersEye

Great points.

And add to that the condescending dismissal of cheap, OTC drugs that had the promise of fighting the China virus. And the $39k per COVID corpse the “hospitals” enjoyed.

The cult of corruption was mind-numbing — the reason why I condemn the “medical community” as self-serving cult.


69 posted on 02/18/2023 11:20:09 PM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: stig

My family all had COVID in 2020.

Later that year out of curiosity I asked two of my doctors if I should get the COVID vaccination. They both asked why in the world would I want to do that.


70 posted on 02/18/2023 11:20:56 PM PST by gitmo (If your theology doesn't become your biography, what good is it?)
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To: Gene Eric

Yes, all of that too. It all stinks to high heaven.

My father practiced family medicine from ‘54 to ‘84 and he would have been appalled at how the medical community behaved. I share your opinion of them. There were exceptions but they were all too rare.


71 posted on 02/18/2023 11:26:45 PM PST by TigersEye (The Democrat Party is criminal, unAmerican and illegitimate )
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To: Golden Eagle

Since when did a vaccine ever confer better immunity than the actual virus?

Sheesh, they’ll push the narrative to force that vax onto every last one of us if it’s the last thing they do.


72 posted on 02/18/2023 11:44:33 PM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith…)
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To: DannyTN

Who says the vax offers protection?

To get vaccine induced immunity, you first have to survive the vaccine.

Besides, there are other prophylactic treatments for a cold that could have saved lives. It’s not like there was NOTHING that could be done when you get Covid. There’s plenty that works if the medical community hadn’t withheld it.


73 posted on 02/18/2023 11:47:17 PM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith…)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
99.9%+ survival rate for people with no comorbidities.

And yet where was the advice for people to lose weight to increase their chances of surviving Covid?

NEVER. MENTIONED. ONCE.

74 posted on 02/18/2023 11:50:30 PM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith…)
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To: ChildOfThe60s
People don’t realize that you build immunity to viruses by coming into contact with them, even when you don’t appear to “catch” them, i.e. show symptoms. If one is exposed to the virus there is a positive effect even without getting sick.

Initial viral load was a huge factor in whether you had time to build up resistance before showing symptoms or your immune system was overwhelmed before you did.

75 posted on 02/18/2023 11:54:12 PM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith…)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

And no boosters.
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Me too and never any adult flu shots. And I used to think Robrt Kenedy Jr was a jackass. No vaxxxx since I was 10 years old

Don’t follow leaders Watch the parkin’ meters


76 posted on 02/18/2023 11:58:37 PM PST by dennisw ("You don't have to like it. You just have to do it")
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To: DannyTN
As the [AI] technology — recently acquired by Microsoft for billions of dollars — becomes adopted in more and more professional settings, issues of bias will go beyond support for Joe Biden, warns Lisa Palmer, chief AI strategist for the consulting firm AI Leaders.

“There are harms that are already being created,” she warned.

ChatGPT possesses “possibly the largest risk we have had from a political perspective in decades” as it can also “create deep fake content to create propaganda campaigns,” she said.

Its biases may soon find their ways into the workplace, too.

In the past, human resources utilizing similar AI to rapidly sift through resumes began to automatically disqualify female candidates for jobs, Palmer explained, adding that financial institutions have run into AI bias in regards to loan approvals as well.

Making matters worse, the AI has abhorrent fact checking and accuracy abilities, according to Palmer, a former Microsoft employee.

“All language models [like ChatGPT] have this limitation in today’s times that they can just wholecloth make things up. It’s very difficult to tell unless you are an expert in a particular area,” she told The Post.

Its something both Palmer and Hegde say Microsoft has not been open with the public about as its ChatGPT-infused Bing AI has already gone haywire with responses.

“I am concerned that the average person that is using the Bing search engine will not understand that they could be getting information that is not factual.”

‘Wild West’ ChatGPT has ‘fundamental flaw’ with left bias

77 posted on 02/19/2023 12:23:21 AM PST by henbane ( )
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To: technically right
IT’S NOT A F*CKING VACCINE!!!! Good grief I wish they would quit calling it that. It’s a glorified flu shot.

Didnt they change the definition of vaccine also? Do you remember the details on that?

78 posted on 02/19/2023 12:23:54 AM PST by Lizavetta
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To: DannyTN

“To get Natural Immunity, you first have to survive Covid with no protection.”

LOL

You don’t have a functioning immune system? Any vx interacts with that system else the vx would be pointless.

All the MDs offering free early treatment, and having zero patients hospitalized or dead from cv19 (and hence those developed natural immunity) not good enough for you? The people who died of cv19 did so because they were denied treatment.

I’m not sure how a shot containing a LNP which accumulates in places like the pancreas could in any way be considered “protection”. Lol.

I invite you to read this:

War Room / DailyClout Pfizer Documents Analysis Volunteers’ Reports eBook: Find Out What Pfizer, FDA Tried to Conceal https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BSK6LV5D


79 posted on 02/19/2023 12:28:15 AM PST by SecAmndmt (Cv19 vaccines are Phase 2 of the CCP bioweapon)
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To: TigersEye

+1


80 posted on 02/19/2023 12:58:48 AM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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