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1 posted on 03/04/2023 11:59:50 PM PST by knighthawk
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Two pilots, wow. Checkmate, Russia.

2 posted on 03/05/2023 12:04:26 AM PST by Right_Wing_Madman
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The #ing Rats have far exceeded their war mongering accusations against Trump.


5 posted on 03/05/2023 12:23:17 AM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: knighthawk

What “both sides”?


8 posted on 03/05/2023 12:41:25 AM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion, or satire, or both.)
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2... then 4... then 8.... Exponential growth, anyone?

Over 4,600 F-16s have been built. They have support all over NATO. Plus, the F-35 program is going strong. Give Ukraine F-16s, replace the donated planes with newer F-16s or in time more F-35s.

Basing in a NATO country to attack Russian forces is out. Basing inside Ukraine will be a problem. The remaining UAF is operating from highways and moving around.

The F-16 on average needs twice the runway of a Mig-29, meaning there are fewer potential places it can operate. Ukraine does not want to give Russia easy targets.

9 posted on 03/05/2023 1:10:10 AM PST by Widget Jr (🇺🇦 Sláva Ukrayíni 🇺🇦 - No CCCP 2.0)
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The vast infrastructure that is necessary to keep jets in the air is not something one can replicate overnight. Since the idea of building an airbase in or near the Ukraine that could keep F-16s in the air is ridiculous, will the F-16s fly off of a US aircraft carrier in the Black Sea? Will the Ukrainian pilots just fly the jets until they break, then eject, saying ‘oh well’ thanks for the memories. C’mon Man!


11 posted on 03/05/2023 1:58:39 AM PST by Ronaldus Magnus III (Do, or do not, there is no try)
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Tucson? That means Davis-Monthan AFB. I don’t think the US Air Force has any F16s at Davis-Monthan, the home base of the A10 Warthogs and a huge aircraft graveyard. I think Luke AFB near Phoenix is where the F16 training center is.
But I guess I am just quibbling.


15 posted on 03/05/2023 3:00:52 AM PST by Tupelo (A House Divided Against Itself Cannot Stand)
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The sooner the inexperienced Ukrainian F-16 pilots take to the air against Russia, the sooner they will be blown out of the sky.

A “familiarization” flight training in simulators is not intense fighter combat training.

This is all propaganda.

There is a very good reason nobody is handing over F-16 fighters to Ukraine for combat. The world would see how fast Russia would shoot them down and how impotent the U.S. and NATO have become.

NATO has become a dinosaur in its death throes. The continuing expansion of NATO after the break-up of the Soviet Union has been unnecessary except to make American crooked politicians more wealthy via kickbacks. It has been a way to milk the U.S. taxpayers for money to vastly enrich American weapons manufacturers who have shared the wealth with political crooks.

This is absolute desperation by globalist warmongers in the face of a complete debacle in Ukraine which every day shows how fake is the effort to try to project Western “strength.”

The West cannot defeat Russia and the whole world can see it. Who do these lunatics think they are fooling? Begging the world for donations of artillery ammunition is not inspiring much confidence in the military “power” of the West.


17 posted on 03/05/2023 3:17:39 AM PST by Gnome1949
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Everything you hear in the Media about this war is a LIE

“Ukraine is being LIBERATED by Russia, not attacked. The are removing the Khazarian mafia, the US biological weapons labs, and the Biden/Obama money laundering operations. My organizations speaks to dozens of people currently living in Ukraine and they are so happy that liberation has finally come. DO NOT LISTEN TO THE MEDIA....ALL STORIES ARE LIES. The enemy is in the gates, not in Russia. CLUE IN”

-Nick Sylvester


20 posted on 03/05/2023 3:45:59 AM PST by afchief
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You know, if Biden keeps giving away all the military equipment (Afghanistan, Ukraine), people will be able to fight the government with just guns.


24 posted on 03/05/2023 4:08:12 AM PST by DejaJude (I'll be back, again.)
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Two pilots is only a test to see how well they do.


25 posted on 03/05/2023 4:14:43 AM PST by popdonnelly (All the enormous crimes in history have been committed by governments.)
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I wouldn’t waste my time defending Russians or Putin.


26 posted on 03/05/2023 4:15:29 AM PST by popdonnelly (All the enormous crimes in history have been committed by governments.)
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So, is this a pilot program?


30 posted on 03/05/2023 5:19:17 AM PST by moovova ("The NEXT election is the most important election of our lifetimes!“ LOL...)
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Article from August of 2022.

Romania Is a Model for Training Ukraine’s Pilots to Fly F-16s
Aug. 28, 2022
“Romania, a NATO member, offers a case study for how that could go. Its air force is completing a transition from Soviet-era MiG-21s to U.S.-built F-16s, providing a model for training pilots for the switch, according to U.S. Airmen involved with the training. The U.S. Air Force’s Air Education and Training Command even has a course for partner and ally nation pilots that could be tailored for Ukraine.

At Morris Air National Guard Base, Ariz., Eastern European pilots from Poland, Romania, Bulgaria, and Slovakia have been taking the six-month ANG International Initial Qualification Course (Advanced) for more than two decades. In fact, today’s young Romanian pilots have never flown MiGs, which are being phased out of Romania’s Air Force as it seeks to expand its fleet of F-16s and eventually to buy F-35s.”

https://www.airandspaceforces.com/romania-is-a-model-for-training-ukraines-pilots-to-fly-f-16s/


32 posted on 03/05/2023 5:32:40 AM PST by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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Around 10 years ago, I was deployed OCONUS to a base we shared with a foreign unit we was directly supplied with a squadron of F-16s.

It was never more than 50% ready, even with 100% direct support from us. They never flew more than a few birds at a time.


33 posted on 03/05/2023 5:52:57 AM PST by AAABEST ( NY/DC/LA media/political/military industrial complex DELENDA EST)
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Just have them watch Top Gun a few times and they should be ready.


38 posted on 03/05/2023 6:27:05 AM PST by Nashcash
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Game Changer #?


39 posted on 03/05/2023 6:29:26 AM PST by McGruff (Don't underestimate Joe's ability to f*** things up - Barack Obama)
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Stay out.


40 posted on 03/05/2023 6:34:35 AM PST by tennmountainman ( Less Lindell CONS, More AZ Style Audits)
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Still NOT OUR FIGHT! Let Europe handle it as they did the Crimean War.


44 posted on 03/05/2023 7:19:50 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (“No man’s life, liberty, or property are safe while the legislature is in session.”)
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The company I was working for was making a radar simulator for the F-16. We were far enough along to put up a picture but not far enough along to make it move yet. The people from Lockheed(?) were in-plant for a progess check and our hardware guys were very proud of the picture that we put up for them to see.

But the Lockheed guy said, “Oh no, that’ll never do”. Our H/W guys were devasted until he added, “A real radar picture would never look anywhere close to that clear”. In the end, the H/W guys added circuitry to add noise into the picture so that it wouldn’t be so clear.


45 posted on 03/05/2023 7:36:56 AM PST by libertylover (Our biggest problem, by far, is that almost all of big media is AGENDA-DRIVEN, not-truth driven.)
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The pair are being taught using flight simulators.

Well they should have it mastered in about a week or two huh.


49 posted on 03/05/2023 8:42:38 AM PST by Vaduz (LAWYERS )
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